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Marine, Actor and Damn Fine Dude - Today we've got USMC veteran AND Hollywood actor Michael Broderick. Michael has had roles on shows we all know and love, like True Detectives, Get Shorty, SWAT, SEAL Team and just about every police procedural on the books.
Michael is one of those guys that's always taken on exciting challenges. He was in a punk band and played CBGBs in NYC--where he met his wife Dana. He supports the arts through Veterans in Media and Entertainment which helps veterans connect to jobs, each other and provide a space that unites current and former members of the military working in the film and television industry. Michael and Dana also give their time and support to a variety of autism based worked. Their website Re-Thinking |
Autism provides guidance changing the Autism conversation from causation and cure to focusing on improving the quality of life for Autistic people and their families.
Pete A Turner, as he does, traveled to Michael's house and grabbed a show in Michael's studio/garage.
#podcast #episode #actor #hollywood #BIDS #GroundTruth #MesinerMethod
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Pete A Turner, as he does, traveled to Michael's house and grabbed a show in Michael's studio/garage.
#podcast #episode #actor #hollywood #BIDS #GroundTruth #MesinerMethod
Haiku
Will is everything
If you want it, go get it
He’s still getting his
Similar episodes:
Mark Valley
Ty Smith
Nate Boyer
Transcripts
Jon Leon Guerrero 0:00
Hey, this is john Leon Guerrero. Our guest today is Michael Broderick. He's an actor and a musician who's one of those guys who's unintimidating Lee handsome, which means all the chicks understand what he has going on. But by the time the dudes do, he's already escaped with your girl, which of course is not true. He's been married many years to his wife, Dana, who we met playing guitar at CBGBs.
Hey, this is john Leon Guerrero. Our guest today is Michael Broderick. He's an actor and a musician who's one of those guys who's unintimidating Lee handsome, which means all the chicks understand what he has going on. But by the time the dudes do, he's already escaped with your girl, which of course is not true. He's been married many years to his wife, Dana, who we met playing guitar at CBGBs.
Jon Leon Guerrero 0:00
Hey, this is john Leon Guerrero. Our guest today is Michael Broderick. He's an actor and a musician who's one of those guys who's unintimidating Lee handsome, which means all the chicks understand what he has going on. But by the time the dudes do, he's already escaped with your girl, which of course is not true. He's been married many years to his wife, Dana, who we met playing guitar at CBGBs. But that's a conversation for another time. What it really means is that he's an actor who shows up in the scene and takes command of the situation. He's a Marine Corps veteran, and a powerful supporter of veteran causes and helping veterans transition into civilian life, which you know, is near and dear to the break it down show. And he and Dana are founders of the autism advocacy website rethinking autism. com where their mission is to change the conversation from causation and cure to acceptance and understanding. Now, as always, if you like what we do, I'm going to ask that you help us out. I'm not going to ask that you rack up credits and TV shows like the unit bones, Criminal Minds and justified like Michael has. I'm just asking that you press a couple of buttons and drop us that five star rating. Write us a little review in iTunes or Stitcher or whatever platform you're listening on. Or if you catch us on YouTube that you subscribe and hit that notification bell so you can always get the freshest, digital love. That's all I'm asking. Speaking of love, you're going to love our guest today. We sure do. Here's Michael Broderick
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is Michael Broderick you're listening to break it down show.
Niko Leon Guerrero 1:51
And now the breakdown show with john Leon Guerrero and Pete a Turner.
Pete Turner 1:57
Yeah, this is cool. So first off, thanks to the arm bar guys, cuz they're the ones that hooked us up. And I love those guys. They're going to be they've already been on the show. Going to put that out probably in two weeks or so. And then I'm doing their show in a couple of weeks. Yeah, right now we all just cross pollinate. And I don't know if you know Scott using it all know, we will all be together in the same room soon as also part of this community. And then I want to for sure plug the veteran entertainment thing, but I cant rember the
Michael broderick 2:23
VME veterans and media and entertainment.
Pete Turner 2:25
Yeah, I mean, I'm going to sign up, give me $25 or whatever it is. Because there's I've got a lot of knowledge and how to do this, and then all of the things and that got me to thinking about a crazy movie idea. And I've got no time to write screenplays. But if I did, I'd like to write battalion Hollywood. And it'd be like, you know, you me, Larry Wilcox, of course, you know, because you gotta have a salty old general will get Nate.
Michael broderick 2:51
You know, it's fun. Did you? Somehow Did you could I mentioned that in an article once did you like research? We mentioned
Pete Turner 2:56
that an arm bar, I did my research
Michael broderick 2:59
that my recruit said, Oh, Larry Wilcox. Ah, that's funny. I didn't I was like, who did i tell that to?
Pete Turner 3:04
So one of the things I do is when I listen to shows, I'm like, okay, we'll use arm bars like part one. Yeah, and not cover all of like your wife, you know, doubling down and believe in the new and coming out here. So all you guys go listen to arm bar. It's fantastic. And you'll get the cut up version of your background. Right? We'll try to get into other things with our episode because I want to give folks some new angles on you. You know, I mean, the acting thing of course, we'll get into all that but also about your autistic child and everything. That's all of those things comprise who we are. And it's not captured in an hour.
Michael broderick 3:35
Oh, absolutely. Yeah, yeah. And you know, it's funny, I You'll have to forgive me ahead of time, I guess. You know, when you do podcasts and stuff, you tend to repeat yourself. Yeah, everybody has different listeners and whatever. So if I if I go over anything that I went over, I'm
Pete Turner 3:48
will be good or I will be good. I apologize. Yeah. So okay, you work in Hollywood. You're an actor. What's your current gig when you got something? Because we're just past pilot season all that did you get you figured out?
Michael broderick 4:01
Like I'm not a recurring or you know, series regular on anything right now. So I bounced around show to show right. episodic series season is just starting up again. So yeah, so the auditions I started rolling, had a great audition yesterday. Nice recently booked a film for the Lions Gate is producing. But I haven't been given the green light to talk about it. Yeah, I didn't ask but I haven't been given.
Pete Turner 4:20
I guess what I want to give the audience an idea of is because there's so many different ways to do it. Yes, a guy we're going to have on the show in the future. He's actually in Hungary right now. He's from my hometown. Couple years, like just far enough ahead of me that I never knew who he was bring guys in between us are like, Oh, he's an actor. Yeah, he does all kinds of character things. And so like, yeah, Tom Hanks, great. But there's 1000 ways to do this thing and have a really good living like Mark Valley used to be a co host on the show first started. He's the same kind of thing where he's like, I only take the gigs I want to do because I got to be passionate about it. So he primarily does his own stuff. So what is it like to be a guy that goes out does audition books, movies, books, procedurals, books, books, books? How do you manage that? How do you manage the not saying yes to everything while being available to anything?
Michael broderick 5:08
Well, I'd love to say that I can, I'm in position to turn things down. Yeah. But I'm still in a position where I mean, when you work day to day, you know, you're a day player, you pretty much have to take everything. I mean, that's just something I just, I have a problem with. But that hasn't, I don't think that's come up yet. Okay, I've passed on a couple of auditions, where, you know, I'd read the breakdown of the character or read what the plot is, or whatever, where the script and just be like, you know, what, this isn't something I want to be a part of, right. I've done that before with things that were that Miss represented the military, oh, things like that, you know, I don't have a problem with veteran or an active duty person being portrayed as a villain, you know, but it depends on the case, if it's a misrepresentation, if that's presented as the status quo, as opposed to an outlier, right. You know, I got a problem with that. Yeah. And so that's not something I want to be a part of,
Pete Turner 6:04
but for the most part, hollywood tries to get these things, right. I mean, they pay people it's gotten a lot better,
Michael broderick 6:09
a lot better. And I think that's, that's directly due to groups like the AMA, and more veterans getting involved. Because now when you're working alongside people, whether you know that the grip who's a veteran, and he's a great worker, and you're like, oh, let's get him, you know, this guy's great. It's not like these guys are a bunch of mindless, I should say, I shouldn't shortchange the women, men and women are a bunch of mindless idiots. Yeah, so I think just being involved in Hollywood has changed perception at the ground level. And then everything else flows from that.
Pete Turner 6:38
The overall work that you do, as a veteran I've talked to, like we've had Chad, Michael Collins is similar to you, he does a lot of procedural type work and everything. And the driving theme seems to be and he kind of came in through his own unique doors out of veteran, but he's came here to do something else like with PR, right? And there was like, Hey, handsome young guy, why don't you try out for this role? Because he did when he shows up, he brings something right, you know, which is a big hurdle for people to have to get over. Like, if you don't deliver a you like we're talking about the truth, right, you know, show up on time, tell the truth. But truth is not the lines. And a lot of times, it's like when he shows up, you're like, oh, there's that person. He just embodies certain things. That make
Michael broderick 7:22
sense. Absolutely. I mean, I think other people have to work more at that. There's I mean, you know, there's that thing that's called the it factor is a real thing. You know, when people step into a room and there's just a magnetism, yeah. Sometimes that's confidence alone. Sometimes it's it's something ethereal. Yeah, I'll tell you, I've been fortunate to meet a lot of, you know, famous people or whatever, or work with them, or whatever. But there was one person that above head and shoulders above all else, I was in the same room with Dennis Hopper once. And in the same room where I'm not going to name other people. Because, you know, I don't want to say they didn't have it, but it was people at his level, like iconic type people. But there was something about this, the air around him was just crackling. Yeah. And the intensity, you know, and he's just still and silent and listening. And you know, whatever. Yeah. And I was like, wow, whatever that is, that's the first time I experienced it, like eyes on
Pete Turner 8:17
you, right? Because I'm fortunate to have a similar experience. You know, we've talked to these quote, unquote, famous people, but he likely I'm assuming, cuz I I've been in the same room as Dennis Hopper. During his he was doing a talk about one of his movies with the director during the Las Vegas Film Festival. And I was too far back to feel it. Yeah. You know, you're, you know, 50 people back, but I imagine that he can't help it. Like he just is that
Michael broderick 8:42
Yeah, like I said, it was literally he was just sitting there, right. And there was just something about him. And like I said, there were other people in the room that were at that level, like icon, people. Yeah. And I was like, oh, wow, there's so and so. And so there's so and so. But there was something about him. Yes. Just it was it was coming off in waves. I know. Jay more has become a friend of mine. And when Jay Mohr would like I mean, I know. Of course, I know. Now he's he's famous. But yeah, back when I was in New York, when I first came out of the Marines, I tried to stand up comedy. And he used to, you know, jump up at little Boston comedy club, it was called, like, Third Street by the blue note, maybe Fourth Street anyway, he was like, he was really up and coming then you know, yeah. And when he would show up, you know, everybody gets bumped you know, him. I was like him Mark Marin Louie ck, like, but all these guys were like big in the circuit hadn't yet broken, you know, like, TV and stuff like that. That's an interesting time. But anyway, Jay Mohr, great? No,
Pete Turner 9:35
but he when you sit across from him, and this was my first real exposure to this level of talent, and maybe, you know, in terms of where he's at, and Dennis Hopper, maybe he's well below Dennis Hopper, but he has this laser beam of energy shoots at you when he switches on. Like, before we're doing anything. We're just goofing. We're just goofing. Yeah. But then when he's on and he's trying to deliver something for you. You have was and he's a high energy. Yeah, sure. So you just get blasted with this energies. Oh, and I've, I've encountered a lot of people. So I was a spy, right? So my job was to go out and talk to all kinds of people, but I had never encountered that, where you just, you know, you can be overwhelmed by someone's intellect or someone's other, but I've never had the energy just shot at me. Yeah, yeah. And just blow back. And remember, Vinnie talking about this, you know, Mike, you get into that acting one. On one moment, you realize, Oh, I'm not keeping up.
Michael broderick 10:30
Right. Right. Right. That has happened, fortunately, only once where, you know, just prep wasn't what it should have been. Right. And you know, and it's go time. Yeah. And different shows are different. You know, sometimes people are like, you know, they're still reading their sides, right. Before we say action, you know, but other times, it's like, well, every time now, since that happened earlier in my career, yeah, I show, you know, especially when your day play, you just show up just you're ready to go. Yeah, you know, because you don't want to be the weak link. Right. But yeah, matching energies with somebody, especially, you know, you lock eyeballs, and it's on.
Pete Turner 11:02
Yeah, yeah. And when they do that, and I imagine that's like the speed of the game. Like the NFL, the young players always like, Oh, my gosh, it's so fast up here, you know, and you learn it, and you figure out how to get up to the speed of the game. So it happens at one time and you realize, Oh, this is this is the level, how do you how do you get to that you come in the garage and just do the whole code and then start shaking and, and what up and prepping?
Michael broderick 11:24
Depends on what what it is like yesterday, for this audition. I had, you know, I work out with this group called Lacey group. JOHN Lacey's is an actor who runs an acting group, we get together on Tuesday nights, and we throw down you know, we do scenes or whatever. And it's all based on miser technique. And my son says, you know, there's one decision, you know, they say, well, it was a choice. It was a choice of artistic choice. There's one choice and I can use to make and that's what is the emotional life of the character. And so you know, john says, Come in loaded nicely said don't don't come in empty. Right. You got to load it up. Right. The words are canoe that are provided for you. And the actors. The emotional life is the river. Yeah. So it can be turbulent. It could be still planning, whatever. Yeah. So yesterday, I had this audition and it said write anything you know, Father, whatever, furious, right? So I'm like, furious is not that that's a very particular word. He's mad. He's angry. He's pissed off. He's furious. Yeah. So for all morning before my audition, I'm making my I'm staying away from myself. Just making myself angry. Yeah. And by the time I got over there, I was practically sick to my stomach. Yeah, you know, but I like my launch your launches everything in an audition, you gotta launch you can't hope to kind of build up to a moment you know, you've got to have it in you bury it, but it's got to be in there. It's got to be percolating and yesterday, like I said, almost made myself sick. By the time I finally, you know, I've walked out the door. I was just like, you know, and you get this kind of post adrenaline rush. Rather come down, I should say. But that's what it's all about it. This is acting one on one. I don't pretend to be angry. I get angry, right. I mean, I make myself angry.
Pete Turner 12:56
So you more of a method guy in general, or
Michael broderick 12:58
this is see this. I would call this miser. miser is all about loading up the emotional condition. And even using substitutes, which I think I'm not as familiar with the method. Sure. I don't think the method they substitutes. It's like, they use actual experiences, things like that. Whereas I, you know, I'll just think things that make them mad.
Pete Turner 13:18
Yeah. Yeah, it works. Well, it's interesting because furious, like, if you look at the roots of those words, you know, US means full, you know, so like, Wonder us. Right, right. You know, laborious, you know, so they really, you are full of fury. Yeah. Right. Do you believe that word fear? Like, I know, the writer writes what they want, but do you trust that they really mean furious? Or do they mean high rate?
Michael broderick 13:44
Okay, you have to I mean, it's one thing if you're if you're like, when I was on true, Detective, you can get used to the way the writer writes. Yeah. Okay. So not that I would ever say that Nick has a lot of doesn't mean every word he says horse. He absolutely does. Yeah, but I'm sure there, there are writers on shows where it's a team of writers and you know, whatever. So they might use words because you use words that aren't necessarily as accurate as they could be. So you have to trust the pattern of the show or the or the tone of the show. But at an audition, you have no idea you have to you have to take their word for it. Yeah, literally, you know, and just go with it. Funny, though, we have to trust the tone of the show. I was just gonna say that doesn't matter. It's flew by able to come back to you.
Pete Turner 14:24
Okay, so so furious, right, you come in and you've got the fury.
Michael broderick 14:27
That's what about Do you mind? Perfect. So that's what I hope. I'm amazed at how many words have been dumbed down to just mean good or great. Yeah. Like, awesome. Yes. Does not mean great. Fantastic. does not mean great. Yeah. You know, fantastic means there's, there's a there's an element of fantasy to it. You cannot believe it. Right. Like, unbelievable is now means great. Yeah. You know, like, everything just means great. And they had these words all had very specific meanings. vented, but, you know, awesome, fantastic. Stick. Wonderful. Yes. All these things just now mean, good. You know, it's sad. I look, I say awesome all the time. I do too. And so it you know, I'm as guilty as anyone else. But you know, when I when I think about it, and you asked about did they really mean that word ass? You know what I mean? But you nailed it full of fury? Yeah, you know, so it saddens me a little bit that that language is used so casually. Now, yeah, I think in the in the spoken word is I give you a little break. But in the written word, certainly, I think it's,
Pete Turner 15:31
especially if you're trying to one of the things I learned is that the military, we think about effect, like these 15 actions will lead to this conclusion. But in reality, an effect is so much more powerful, you know, and not using ethic as a verb, as a noun as a, as a response to stimuli. So you're thinking, emotional, emotive, kind of things. Like, if we put out a message on the radio was psyops if we're not getting the desired emotional response. We're not communicating very well. And the whole thing of that, right. So it sounds like it's a similar thing, where as the person who's writing this, you know, audition side that you have to learn, you know, I really need to make sure that you are going to be able to convey the emotion I want, you know, and all the other, all the other audition things aside, maybe you're not the guy should be, you know, maybe you are the guy that was like he was not the guy for this, but you know, who is
Michael broderick 16:25
Yeah, boom, let's
Pete Turner 16:25
bring in Broadway, you know, kind of thing. So, when you do think about language, and then the power of those words, and you're a writer, you really do owe that to the person who's going to sit in that chair
Michael broderick 16:35
and try to deliver it was the I am not a writer. So I but I, as an actor, I try to bend my will towards respecting what i think you know, you can only guess until you get the job, you can only guess right but respecting what I think their intention is. And the only indication I have that of that is the written word.
Pete Turner 16:53
I was watching. Because, you know, I'm always trying to work on improving what I do as an as a host, you know, I mean, I have a lot of interview kind of skills, because being a spy, but you know, I watched it, Kevin, because there's an older style, right? Yeah,
Michael broderick 17:05
sure. Yeah,
Pete Turner 17:06
he's still alive. So I can't wait. I desperate to get him on the show. As long as he's old enough that you have to wonder like, is he that as we have it all together? But if he does, I'm hoping that I can sit across from him. Wow, he's a master. Yeah, sure. So he was talking to Alfred Hitchcock. Yeah. And so it just like, wow, let me just shut up and watch this, like three times in a row. And it's it's a short segment. But he talked about, you know, what he needs from Alfred Hitchcock. So he's a master at directing. Yeah. But he talked about how you could take someone like Jimmy Stewart making a face, you know, acting in a certain way. But the next shot can be a baby with the mom, or it can be an ingenue, or it can be an older, and you can make that guy into three different kinds of assholes or saints and depending on that in between shots, so he's like, how important is the
Michael broderick 17:52
actor? Oh, absolutely. I mean, it was it was a Russian experiment in film where they just showed man's face and just looked into the line news, that's very neutral. It was that's where I was employed for neutral look, right? And then they showed a picture of, I think it was like a coffin. And it was a picture of a baby. And then it has a picture of a beautiful woman. And when they asked people okay, what does he feeling now? What does he feeling now? And they were just reflecting what they were feeling like onto a neutral face. It was the same every time. But they said, Okay, now he's feeling sad. Now he's in love now feels maternal only, you know, whatever it is. We're just projecting our feelings onto
Pete Turner 18:32
this canvas. So yeah, I mean, you hopefully the director is making in the actors working with a director to make that projection kind of focused. But you're right. It's it. There's a lot of our own things, you know, like when I watched stars, porn stars, so I was watching the stars born. And I've had a I've had an adult girlfriend before. And so I'm like, wow, I'm just like vomiting my emotions all over this movie that's designed to pull that out of me. Sure. Now, and I'm just like, God, what a genius this way to make me respond. Because when I watched the Kris Kristofferson, Barbra Streisand version, not does it didn't work for me, right. But this version watching this, that part of the train wreck, and I was like, Oh, yeah,
Michael broderick 19:11
you know, I enjoyed the film. I shouldn't say I love it. Very well made. Yeah, I felt like it could have ended with him in the garage. Yeah, it was 20 minutes too long. Okay, you need a bit at the end. Yeah, that's just me.
Pete Turner 19:23
I think I favor that model of a movie more. I definitely don't need a two hour movie all the damn time. I'm no longer into the roller coaster comic book thing where it's like this impossible scenario in this impossible scenario. And I would rather have something that's more of a thriller, I suppose, than the roller coaster thing. But also, if I've got Lady Gaga there to bring it home. I wasn't mad at them for doing that. But I'm with you. Like, that's the moment? Yeah, no, cut the black Fade to black. Whatever.
Michael broderick 19:52
Yeah. And by the way, if that was a surprise to anyone, yeah, they just haven't been alive long enough or right.
Pete Turner 19:58
Yeah. I mean, it was it, you know? Yeah, it was, it was comparable, in godfather to when Robert Duvall goes to the old Italian guy who's in federal custody, and they basically have the speech and nothing is said, but everybody knows that the end of this whole thing. We're going to have the Italian mob guy opening his veins, because he says he's gonna do it, you know, right. It's the same kind of thing where you have the record exact, basically telling the Bradley Cooper character like, you know, this is never going to happen with you. And so we all know. Yeah, but even knowing it still hits you with it. Yeah.
Michael broderick 20:31
Yeah, it was, like I said, it's a well made movie. I love the bits of them playing together. I'm a former musician. And, and I really do miss playing live. And when I see something like that, you know, I'm like, yeah, you know, I never did get to play in front of those huge crowds. I only did like the club circuit.
Pete Turner 20:47
Yeah. CPG. You talked about that. Just once.
Michael broderick 20:49
I would like to play a stadium. Right.
Pete Turner 20:51
And you play guitar. Yeah. When you when you before we get into music, I do want to talk because this shows got a lot of music roots in it. But I want to get back into the emotional things. So what words mean things right? Yeah, absolutely. Kind of bringing in I always like you to this I talked about them entirely too much. But bottle explores love, but he explores it from multiple perspectives and spiritually, right like so there's Ordinary Love, and there's, you know, new love and all these different ways. And just like you really think about what love can be, and the and the shot of love that comes out of that central core. It doesn't just go in one line. There's like the love you have for your kid. That's the love you have for your friend, you know, all different things and ways of doing it. Do you play with those emotions as you try to figure out what to fill up with like, this is this particular kind of love.
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Michael broderick 22:16
Yeah, I think so. I mean, because, you know, that's, that's an emotion that hopefully, everybody can relate to. Yeah. And yeah, there are so many different flavors and colors of it. So I would guess, because this is now now the only reason I'm hesitant to answer is because this is something that I I assume I do, which is automatically Yeah. And so I imagine it's colored by what the text is. Yeah, you know, what the circumstances are, I try to match up the best case. And if it's something that actually happened to me, you know, if it's a similar situation that I can put a lot of myself into, yes, use that. Right, you know, just memory work. And that's more into the method stuff. Yeah. But on, you know, I'll steal from whatever works journey now. So, you know, the path of least resistance if I if I'm able to get there quickly, by remembering. I'll give you a quick example. Maybe I shouldn't, my mom might listen to this. But abandonment, you know, there was there was a time when I was in the Corps. And and, and I went, you know, we used to go to sleep circle, which is something in June, I was stationed on a newer, you go over to swoop certainly pay a guy 20 bucks or 40 bucks, whatever, he'll take you up to DC and drop you off and they'll pick you up on Sunday night you drive back together. And it's usually something you don't know not rain, whatever. At Sunday night, I'm waiting to for him to come pick me up and you never show us and this is you know this back before cell phone, nobody will phone you know, whatever. And you just never shows is getting later and later and later. And I'm like, and I spent all my money except for what I was gonna pay the guy to get, you know, and I call my parents. And I was like, I'm stuck in DC. Can you give me like, give me a plane ticket? Something my mom, my mom said, you know, you got yourself there. Yeah, you get yourself back. And looking back now. I'm like, that was the right move. Yeah, as a parent, you like you made your bed. Now I don't know if you understood the stakes of being UA and shit like that boy. And out of bounds again. But as a parent that was you know, I was grown. I was grown ass man. I was mine. Take care of it. You know, I care. And I eventually did. I showed up mid day, the next day and got it got a got a stern talking to from my Sergeant Major about troop circle and blah, blah, blah. But I was relatively new to the squadron. So they, they they kind of let it slide. But the feeling when she said she wasn't going to help me. Yeah, I felt betrayed and abandoned. And I use that a lot. Like, that's something that's so still so very fresh in me like I can if there's some kind of disappointment or something I need to draw, and I go to that, and it still works for me.
Pete Turner 24:44
We had a guy that he plays show tonight, a whole lot on the show. And he was talking about the damage that he respects the damage that can happen by playing sugar whole aka sugars is a monster. I mean, for the most part, you know, like willing to harm people for his own better. It doesn't get much worse than that. So and if so if you're listening, I god bless get better. Dominic is his name. And he looks like he looks the part and I'm like, Do you worry that maybe you're causing some internal mental damage by accessing this person that much? And he's like, yeah, I'm aware that there's a danger there and I try to account for it. I'm asked to do my job. I do it well, but I am going into a part of me that is not the best part. Yeah, yeah. So do you have similar kind of concerns when you play someone that's evil?
Michael broderick 25:28
It's funny. I'm working on this and in you know, when I when I work with Lacey group, I've been working on some characters that are I have difficulty with cruelty. I can be an asshole. Like, there's a I played a character in power on stars, whereas a NYPD detective Yeah, and I'm gonna cry. It's my crime scene. Some fed comes rolling and and you know, I'm like, back to the wall. You know what I mean? Like, I can be a scrappy little dog. Yeah. Be a jerk. Yeah, I mean, because I feel like I'm right. Yeah, but to BO and I got to play the flip side of that equation where I'm the FBI guy Ryan on on an episode of SWAT. So I play both sides of that, but I have difficulty being cruel. Like for no reason like
Pete Turner 26:12
being so your struggle was me being cruel as opposed to it's too easy for me to be cruel like it's the Oh yeah,
Michael broderick 26:18
it's like I have difficulty finding that in myself. So I have to like kind of like practice on your dogs and stuff. No, no, I do I do it and when we when we do scenes you know guys like OK scenes where I have to do that you know, I have to so it's like working out in the gym. You know, if you suck at squats get under a fucking bar, right?
Pete Turner 26:35
Yeah, no, that's great. That's brilliant actually to be able to get into that. So the talking about flavors and colors with emotions. Do you have a sense for what those flavors and colors actually are? Do you think in those terms? Because there's that is a thing like i said i
Michael broderick 26:48
i don't know if I have a lot to say on that because I think it just happens automatically you know, did what the what the situation is it in the story what what the words are? Yeah, and that just kind of you know, it flows in flows out.
Pete Turner 27:01
Yeah, cuz there's a guy who plays the drums and there's a name for night escapes me right now. But he drums by color. He actually has a color. And then he plays that groove based on that. I'm really simple aspect. I don't know. But it's a spectrum II kind of thing. That
Michael broderick 27:17
absolutely is right. Yeah, I
Pete Turner 27:19
mean, it's got a full name and it's it's like many small words put together into something that probably a German guy probably named it. But yeah, it's fascinating. And then we have another guy, another musician, who a veteran. His name is Charles Charles Quinn, and he plays bass or he plays keys and he leaves the whole building he's not there anymore and he goes to the color that he needs and maybe it's his time in the Navy and Italy he thinks about Tuscan red, not because Tuscany and red go together. Yeah The reason but in his mind, and that's the groove that's the thing that is interesting.
Michael broderick 27:51
Wow, that's cool. Yeah, I don't have anything like that. Mine's pretty straightforward. I try to use things I've experienced or things I've seen it you know think about seeing movies sometimes it just that make me just you know the kill me when you're playing the good side. How often do you play guitar Do you play at all anymore? I play I try to play every day. Okay, you know I got a guitar in the bedroom. I got several keep one on a stand just to pick up and oh, when I was doing True Detective in Arkansas. First thing I did when I got off playing was I you know, I gave me a rental car and I went to Guitar Center I bought a cheap little Yeah, you know, acoustic just to keep my hotel room. Cuz I just need to play Yeah, it's like a decompression thing. So yeah, I play all the time. I don't
Pete Turner 28:31
have that I would music I could see the color thing I can understand that better. Do you leave the room and you play like are you present in your situation? Or do you
Michael broderick 28:42
know I don't go any like, I don't go by by you know, I'm still very, very present. But when, when I'm playing well see, I'm not a shredder. I'm like, I'm a Townsend fan. So a lot of rhythm and stuff like that. And you know, I can play some lead. When it's flowing, man. You just that's when I'll sing. I mean, like, I don't sing a lot. But if I'm feeling it, you know, then then yeah, yeah, you know, open my mouth.
Pete Turner 29:08
Yeah, I played a little bit too and I don't have the desire and apparently, I'm not going to develop the chops to play a lot of lead stuff. So like when I tried to learn how to play octopuses garden when I was taking lessons, you know, that doo doo doo doo doo doo doo, doo doo. Yeah, I just, I can never make my brain shut off long enough just to let my I can play it. But I have to like, put my tongue out. Look at my head, you know, everything but play it well, you know? So I don't do that. But the rhythm part. That's all I really need. And then I struggle with keeping my voice and then like the the key insane, which is actual singing. But if I didn't have to worry about being a slave to the other one, and I'm not good enough of a player to play in the key that's most comfortable for my voice maybe? Yeah, now we're naturally sits I should actually like, you know, I'm always in a minute. Seventh keys are my voice likes to be good enough to do that. But I wanted to ask you about your music so you don't leave the room but you play. Do you play your own things? Do you play? I'm not a writer.
Michael broderick 30:10
Okay, I play other people's stuff. See?
Pete Turner 30:12
What comes to you like when you sit down and you want to warm up? What do you just go to right away?
Michael broderick 30:17
Usually Thunder Road Springsteen? Yeah, that's, you know, I grew up listening to choice on the Jersey Shore. Yeah, right. Usually Thunder Road, but I like a lot of riffs. I like like, Townsend did a lot of little triads and PEDAL TONES running on any like substitutes one of my favorites. Yeah, I'll do that. I'll do a little Tom Petty something or other. But yeah, things that feel good. honor my fingers and, you know, resonate and kind of fill the space. That's been more, you know, since I stopped playing in a band. And when I was in the band, we played our own stuff. Sure. I just didn't write it. So I don't consider it my stuff. Yeah, I got you. But I'm liking more stuff where it's big sounding. You know, I like strumming but also picking some melodies out and stuff like that. Getting into more of that. Because when you play by yourself, you gotta you know, yeah.
Pete Turner 31:05
When I first came back from combat, I did a lot of racecar driving with my friends. And there's no room for anything else. But that windshield and what's in it. Gotcha. And just, you know, so that all the other stuff is just not?
Michael broderick 31:17
Yeah, I think when you're in the right space, it everything else kind of goes away. I don't mean to say that, that can't be broken instantly by you know.
Pete Turner 31:26
Yeah.
Michael broderick 31:27
So I, you know, that's why I'm afraid to use the word that, you know, I don't go anywhere. I'm still very price, right. But there is that kind of feeling where, like I said, when it's when it's flowing, you know, and yeah, and it just sounds good. And so yeah, it definitely fills me up that way. Yeah, it's usually playing an old favorite. Yeah, you know, I don't I don't really get that way experiment, because I don't I don't experiment that much. I might experiment on on new ways to play a song, you know, if it's not a song I haven't played before, but they're much more conscious, because you're still trying to figure it out, you know, right. But I'm not a combat veteran. You know, I served during relative peacetime, you know, a couple of things happen while I was in but I always seem to miss them. You know, I'd be in the Mediterranean went to the other half my squadron gets called out for operation praying mantis or right, you know, whatever. While I did have I did struggle with reintegration a little bit. I never had to deal with some of the things that the guys and women have to deal with nowadays.
Pete Turner 32:22
When you think back on your service, a lot of the things I get, we had a number of actors. Tito Ortiz a good example. He's desperate to prove to us that he could hack it. Right. And I'm like, Tito, you're fine. You, you can hack it. You're not just an elite athlete, your world champion amongst elite athletes, you know, like, you're tough enough.
Michael broderick 32:44
Oh, do you mean like hacking and
Pete Turner 32:46
logging? Yeah, like, just in general. Like, he's like, I want to go through marine basic boot camp. And I'm like, there's no point don't Yeah, you know, so do you have that similar kind of sense where like you not regrets or anything but like, I just wish I had my chance to take that
Michael broderick 33:02
while you're definitely hitting hitting on the right note for me I do deal with some I don't know if it's regrets but right. Wondering. Yeah, Wonder Sure. You know, and look, I was in a support MLS. So I mean, you know, it's not like I was a door kicker. Even when I was in Yeah, you know, I didn't even get to practice door kick. Yeah, I was in logistics and embarkation, man Attack Helicopter Squadron. But, but a vital work by Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.
Pete Turner 33:29
It's easy to beat yourself up over. So yeah, I didn't have control. Oh,
Michael broderick 33:32
yeah. And I, I used to struggle with that a little bit, especially post 911. You know, and it was actually Command Sergeant Major Jeff Mallinder who kind of wrote me a note one day, I don't know if I asked him about it, or, or maybe pick something up and something I wrote on Facebook, or I don't know, any any just said, Look, you know, you served your time you you did your role, you know? Yeah. And I don't remember his words exactly. But it made me feel calm wall in my own skin as far as that goes. So post 911. I've kind of re rediscovered the veteran community. Or I should say I rediscovered the military community. Because once I got out, I was done. Right. Like I didn't there was nobody around me that was a veteran or anything like that in New York City, or at least you know, not tons of them. Yeah. But post 911. I just wanted to do my part to continue to serve and support role like the military, you know, like, just support veterans organizations or whatever, you know,
Pete Turner 34:31
yeah, no, I mean, it's That's exactly right. How do you continue to serve? Because you do have anybody who raises their right hand? Has that in them whether or not they're able to pursue it or whatever, we all have this desire to serve to say, no, it's okay, I'll do this, I will help here, I will put myself in danger. And the sergeant major was right, you, you raise your right hand and you work at the needs of the Marines, you know, and and you did exactly what you're supposed to do, and you serve honorably. But we do we are hard on ourselves about yesterday,
Michael broderick 34:58
even comma, um, I think it's just a male thing. I mean, I think it's exacerbated by being being mattering. Yeah. And not getting called up when when it when it goes down. But I think like, like, with Tito Ortiz, you know, warrior, you know, so so I think it is a male thing.
Pete Turner 35:15
Yeah, you might be right, because I have a little bit of a to where nobody's got more combat time than I do. I would go outside the wire all the time, you know, sometimes with a patrol sometimes, you know, with very little support, I had to realize that like, No, actually, I was doing it. I actually did those things actually are crazy and impossible. And I should be dead several times over. But even that, with that level of experience, I've had to go. No, it's actually okay. Like, I was a spy, I went on 1000 missions, I really talked to all these different, because in my mind, it's like, wow, you know, maybe I should have just got along tab or maybe I should have gone to this, you know, maybe I should have gone Delta. Right, did all these things, but I didn't do this, like,
Michael broderick 35:53
yes, that regrets. It's just not, you know, it's always I won't say that. Obviously, not every male but it is true. A male trade to kind of push a little further. It's our mindset folks to join the military. Generally speaking, yeah, you, you, you, you know, you're you're always willing, or looking at that next level and saying, Oh, you know, If only I'd If only I'd done that. Or, you know, cuz that's, some of us have more of it than than others. I was, you know, I would have I would have signed up. Give me Oh, 311.
Pete Turner 36:24
Yeah, well, okay. So would you tell young Michael, like, Hey, you may want to pursue that, again, not regrets, but like, an informed decision, you know, where you're like, you know, what, I don't want to be in this support role. I want to be whatever, more out front or three wheel or 311? Or maybe I want to, you know, know that I'm going to deploy it on a ship more
Michael broderick 36:42
only only as an old man. Okay. You know, first let me say this. Yeah, I wouldn't change. I made a lot of mistakes. Yeah, yeah, of course, I wouldn't change anything, because it got me to where I am right. Now. Maybe I wouldn't have met my wife. Yeah, like it. So who knows? So I don't know if I change anything, but everything else if everything else could be the same? Yeah, I would have actually, I would have gone the other way. And I would have signed up for six and gotten my goddamn broadcast journalism. MLS. Yeah, there you go. So yeah, it's like I, you know, they, they get they put all these like, they put four things in my MLS package. You know, there could be this if you sign up for it could be this, this, this or this? broadcast journalism, photo journalism, mapping, and surveying and logistics and embarkation? Like Put your top three and I put them you know, that that three broadcast journalism, photo journalism, mapping and surveying sounds interesting. Okay. And I didn't even put Yeah, of course, they give me agencies in my case.
Pete Turner 37:37
Yeah, you know, needs of the Marines, right. But
Michael broderick 37:39
I knew, you know, even back then I wanted to be an actor. So I figured broadcast journalism was a way to get a little camera time,
Pete Turner 37:45
and at least have some experience of how that whole system works right.
Michael broderick 37:48
Within the Marine Corps. And it's working great. Yeah, yeah. But you know, look, I look back, it's still the greatest thing I've ever done. As far as for myself. Yeah. Because and look, I did the, you know, I don't want to I'm not trying to talk down my service. But I mean, I did. I wasn't asked a lot. There wasn't, he? didn't ask much of me. Yeah. Go through boot camp. Right. During the title. Yeah. Do your job. Yeah, do your job. And sometimes it failed at that. But other times I excelled. Yeah. So earning the title marine getting through boot camp. How was it? You know, I'm still a little like a small dude. But But back then I was tiny. Yeah. And that's why I chose Marines. And so to to to achieve that, at the time just told me Look, dude, if you bend your will to it, you can do it. And that's why I was able to come out to Hollywood at 40 years old. Yeah. And start a career. Yeah. 30s, late 30s. But still,
Pete Turner 38:42
but either way. I mean, you you have done something, everybody comes to this town who wants to be an actor with a similar thing, whether they come in at eight years old, or they come at 55 years old, and they walk in like, I'm going to do this. But the dream isn't the hard part. You know, the hard part is figuring out making the mistakes making the right mistakes, saying, you know, saying yes, and getting better. I'll make all of those. There's so many things and you can do everything right and never even get
Michael broderick 39:09
Oh, absolutely. You can be supremely talented and not. And well, look, if you do everything right, and you're supremely talented as a really good dancer, you know, you're gonna do okay. But you can be extremely talented and not do the right things. Yeah. Or not say yes, at the right time. Or, you know, whatever it is. So yeah, it's a lot to try to navigate
Pete Turner 39:31
that. And even if you're supremely talented, you have to work as hard as your peers do, because it will don't there was a guy who was going to outwork you. Yes, absolutely. That person will get your role. You know, and, and our show is full of people like that where I wasn't the best bass player. You know, I wasn't the best whenever I wasn't, you know, all these things. But I was able to stay in it. I was able to outwork everybody else and people had life choices they made not not a bad choice, but they went Hey, I'm gonna be and then now I think why I have this ridiculously impossible gig where I get to do what I love for a living because I was able to, you know, keep grabbing balls at second base when everybody else was tired. I had another hundred me.
Michael broderick 40:11
Yeah, you're you're you're you're hustling as soon as you hit the fat as soon as you cross that fell out on a field you're running. Uh huh. And running until you cross the finish line off the field. Yeah, that taught me Yeah, you know, as soon as you hit that field, you're running.
Pete Turner 40:21
Well, I love it, man. Listen, it's been about an hour I don't want to take all your day. I'll give a crap man. You want to ask me? No, no, this is great, man. Damn good. Perfect. Yeah, and I really appreciate being able to share time in your in your gym out here
Michael broderick 40:33
and my little my little man cave.
Pete Turner 40:35
Yeah. Photo studios,
Unknown Speaker 40:37
myself tapes and everything. Yeah,
Pete Turner 40:39
yeah. Would you play a song for us to close us out? Sure.
Michael broderick 40:43
Yeah, yeah, I don't gotta sing them.
Pete Turner 40:45
You don't gotta if you don't want to hear.
Michael broderick 40:47
What do you want me to play? Okay, everybody
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Hey, this is john Leon Guerrero. Our guest today is Michael Broderick. He's an actor and a musician who's one of those guys who's unintimidating Lee handsome, which means all the chicks understand what he has going on. But by the time the dudes do, he's already escaped with your girl, which of course is not true. He's been married many years to his wife, Dana, who we met playing guitar at CBGBs. But that's a conversation for another time. What it really means is that he's an actor who shows up in the scene and takes command of the situation. He's a Marine Corps veteran, and a powerful supporter of veteran causes and helping veterans transition into civilian life, which you know, is near and dear to the break it down show. And he and Dana are founders of the autism advocacy website rethinking autism. com where their mission is to change the conversation from causation and cure to acceptance and understanding. Now, as always, if you like what we do, I'm going to ask that you help us out. I'm not going to ask that you rack up credits and TV shows like the unit bones, Criminal Minds and justified like Michael has. I'm just asking that you press a couple of buttons and drop us that five star rating. Write us a little review in iTunes or Stitcher or whatever platform you're listening on. Or if you catch us on YouTube that you subscribe and hit that notification bell so you can always get the freshest, digital love. That's all I'm asking. Speaking of love, you're going to love our guest today. We sure do. Here's Michael Broderick
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Pete Turner 1:57
Yeah, this is cool. So first off, thanks to the arm bar guys, cuz they're the ones that hooked us up. And I love those guys. They're going to be they've already been on the show. Going to put that out probably in two weeks or so. And then I'm doing their show in a couple of weeks. Yeah, right now we all just cross pollinate. And I don't know if you know Scott using it all know, we will all be together in the same room soon as also part of this community. And then I want to for sure plug the veteran entertainment thing, but I cant rember the
Michael broderick 2:23
VME veterans and media and entertainment.
Pete Turner 2:25
Yeah, I mean, I'm going to sign up, give me $25 or whatever it is. Because there's I've got a lot of knowledge and how to do this, and then all of the things and that got me to thinking about a crazy movie idea. And I've got no time to write screenplays. But if I did, I'd like to write battalion Hollywood. And it'd be like, you know, you me, Larry Wilcox, of course, you know, because you gotta have a salty old general will get Nate.
Michael broderick 2:51
You know, it's fun. Did you? Somehow Did you could I mentioned that in an article once did you like research? We mentioned
Pete Turner 2:56
that an arm bar, I did my research
Michael broderick 2:59
that my recruit said, Oh, Larry Wilcox. Ah, that's funny. I didn't I was like, who did i tell that to?
Pete Turner 3:04
So one of the things I do is when I listen to shows, I'm like, okay, we'll use arm bars like part one. Yeah, and not cover all of like your wife, you know, doubling down and believe in the new and coming out here. So all you guys go listen to arm bar. It's fantastic. And you'll get the cut up version of your background. Right? We'll try to get into other things with our episode because I want to give folks some new angles on you. You know, I mean, the acting thing of course, we'll get into all that but also about your autistic child and everything. That's all of those things comprise who we are. And it's not captured in an hour.
Michael broderick 3:35
Oh, absolutely. Yeah, yeah. And you know, it's funny, I You'll have to forgive me ahead of time, I guess. You know, when you do podcasts and stuff, you tend to repeat yourself. Yeah, everybody has different listeners and whatever. So if I if I go over anything that I went over, I'm
Pete Turner 3:48
will be good or I will be good. I apologize. Yeah. So okay, you work in Hollywood. You're an actor. What's your current gig when you got something? Because we're just past pilot season all that did you get you figured out?
Michael broderick 4:01
Like I'm not a recurring or you know, series regular on anything right now. So I bounced around show to show right. episodic series season is just starting up again. So yeah, so the auditions I started rolling, had a great audition yesterday. Nice recently booked a film for the Lions Gate is producing. But I haven't been given the green light to talk about it. Yeah, I didn't ask but I haven't been given.
Pete Turner 4:20
I guess what I want to give the audience an idea of is because there's so many different ways to do it. Yes, a guy we're going to have on the show in the future. He's actually in Hungary right now. He's from my hometown. Couple years, like just far enough ahead of me that I never knew who he was bring guys in between us are like, Oh, he's an actor. Yeah, he does all kinds of character things. And so like, yeah, Tom Hanks, great. But there's 1000 ways to do this thing and have a really good living like Mark Valley used to be a co host on the show first started. He's the same kind of thing where he's like, I only take the gigs I want to do because I got to be passionate about it. So he primarily does his own stuff. So what is it like to be a guy that goes out does audition books, movies, books, procedurals, books, books, books? How do you manage that? How do you manage the not saying yes to everything while being available to anything?
Michael broderick 5:08
Well, I'd love to say that I can, I'm in position to turn things down. Yeah. But I'm still in a position where I mean, when you work day to day, you know, you're a day player, you pretty much have to take everything. I mean, that's just something I just, I have a problem with. But that hasn't, I don't think that's come up yet. Okay, I've passed on a couple of auditions, where, you know, I'd read the breakdown of the character or read what the plot is, or whatever, where the script and just be like, you know, what, this isn't something I want to be a part of, right. I've done that before with things that were that Miss represented the military, oh, things like that, you know, I don't have a problem with veteran or an active duty person being portrayed as a villain, you know, but it depends on the case, if it's a misrepresentation, if that's presented as the status quo, as opposed to an outlier, right. You know, I got a problem with that. Yeah. And so that's not something I want to be a part of,
Pete Turner 6:04
but for the most part, hollywood tries to get these things, right. I mean, they pay people it's gotten a lot better,
Michael broderick 6:09
a lot better. And I think that's, that's directly due to groups like the AMA, and more veterans getting involved. Because now when you're working alongside people, whether you know that the grip who's a veteran, and he's a great worker, and you're like, oh, let's get him, you know, this guy's great. It's not like these guys are a bunch of mindless, I should say, I shouldn't shortchange the women, men and women are a bunch of mindless idiots. Yeah, so I think just being involved in Hollywood has changed perception at the ground level. And then everything else flows from that.
Pete Turner 6:38
The overall work that you do, as a veteran I've talked to, like we've had Chad, Michael Collins is similar to you, he does a lot of procedural type work and everything. And the driving theme seems to be and he kind of came in through his own unique doors out of veteran, but he's came here to do something else like with PR, right? And there was like, Hey, handsome young guy, why don't you try out for this role? Because he did when he shows up, he brings something right, you know, which is a big hurdle for people to have to get over. Like, if you don't deliver a you like we're talking about the truth, right, you know, show up on time, tell the truth. But truth is not the lines. And a lot of times, it's like when he shows up, you're like, oh, there's that person. He just embodies certain things. That make
Michael broderick 7:22
sense. Absolutely. I mean, I think other people have to work more at that. There's I mean, you know, there's that thing that's called the it factor is a real thing. You know, when people step into a room and there's just a magnetism, yeah. Sometimes that's confidence alone. Sometimes it's it's something ethereal. Yeah, I'll tell you, I've been fortunate to meet a lot of, you know, famous people or whatever, or work with them, or whatever. But there was one person that above head and shoulders above all else, I was in the same room with Dennis Hopper once. And in the same room where I'm not going to name other people. Because, you know, I don't want to say they didn't have it, but it was people at his level, like iconic type people. But there was something about this, the air around him was just crackling. Yeah. And the intensity, you know, and he's just still and silent and listening. And you know, whatever. Yeah. And I was like, wow, whatever that is, that's the first time I experienced it, like eyes on
Pete Turner 8:17
you, right? Because I'm fortunate to have a similar experience. You know, we've talked to these quote, unquote, famous people, but he likely I'm assuming, cuz I I've been in the same room as Dennis Hopper. During his he was doing a talk about one of his movies with the director during the Las Vegas Film Festival. And I was too far back to feel it. Yeah. You know, you're, you know, 50 people back, but I imagine that he can't help it. Like he just is that
Michael broderick 8:42
Yeah, like I said, it was literally he was just sitting there, right. And there was just something about him. And like I said, there were other people in the room that were at that level, like icon, people. Yeah. And I was like, oh, wow, there's so and so. And so there's so and so. But there was something about him. Yes. Just it was it was coming off in waves. I know. Jay more has become a friend of mine. And when Jay Mohr would like I mean, I know. Of course, I know. Now he's he's famous. But yeah, back when I was in New York, when I first came out of the Marines, I tried to stand up comedy. And he used to, you know, jump up at little Boston comedy club, it was called, like, Third Street by the blue note, maybe Fourth Street anyway, he was like, he was really up and coming then you know, yeah. And when he would show up, you know, everybody gets bumped you know, him. I was like him Mark Marin Louie ck, like, but all these guys were like big in the circuit hadn't yet broken, you know, like, TV and stuff like that. That's an interesting time. But anyway, Jay Mohr, great? No,
Pete Turner 9:35
but he when you sit across from him, and this was my first real exposure to this level of talent, and maybe, you know, in terms of where he's at, and Dennis Hopper, maybe he's well below Dennis Hopper, but he has this laser beam of energy shoots at you when he switches on. Like, before we're doing anything. We're just goofing. We're just goofing. Yeah. But then when he's on and he's trying to deliver something for you. You have was and he's a high energy. Yeah, sure. So you just get blasted with this energies. Oh, and I've, I've encountered a lot of people. So I was a spy, right? So my job was to go out and talk to all kinds of people, but I had never encountered that, where you just, you know, you can be overwhelmed by someone's intellect or someone's other, but I've never had the energy just shot at me. Yeah, yeah. And just blow back. And remember, Vinnie talking about this, you know, Mike, you get into that acting one. On one moment, you realize, Oh, I'm not keeping up.
Michael broderick 10:30
Right. Right. Right. That has happened, fortunately, only once where, you know, just prep wasn't what it should have been. Right. And you know, and it's go time. Yeah. And different shows are different. You know, sometimes people are like, you know, they're still reading their sides, right. Before we say action, you know, but other times, it's like, well, every time now, since that happened earlier in my career, yeah, I show, you know, especially when your day play, you just show up just you're ready to go. Yeah, you know, because you don't want to be the weak link. Right. But yeah, matching energies with somebody, especially, you know, you lock eyeballs, and it's on.
Pete Turner 11:02
Yeah, yeah. And when they do that, and I imagine that's like the speed of the game. Like the NFL, the young players always like, Oh, my gosh, it's so fast up here, you know, and you learn it, and you figure out how to get up to the speed of the game. So it happens at one time and you realize, Oh, this is this is the level, how do you how do you get to that you come in the garage and just do the whole code and then start shaking and, and what up and prepping?
Michael broderick 11:24
Depends on what what it is like yesterday, for this audition. I had, you know, I work out with this group called Lacey group. JOHN Lacey's is an actor who runs an acting group, we get together on Tuesday nights, and we throw down you know, we do scenes or whatever. And it's all based on miser technique. And my son says, you know, there's one decision, you know, they say, well, it was a choice. It was a choice of artistic choice. There's one choice and I can use to make and that's what is the emotional life of the character. And so you know, john says, Come in loaded nicely said don't don't come in empty. Right. You got to load it up. Right. The words are canoe that are provided for you. And the actors. The emotional life is the river. Yeah. So it can be turbulent. It could be still planning, whatever. Yeah. So yesterday, I had this audition and it said write anything you know, Father, whatever, furious, right? So I'm like, furious is not that that's a very particular word. He's mad. He's angry. He's pissed off. He's furious. Yeah. So for all morning before my audition, I'm making my I'm staying away from myself. Just making myself angry. Yeah. And by the time I got over there, I was practically sick to my stomach. Yeah, you know, but I like my launch your launches everything in an audition, you gotta launch you can't hope to kind of build up to a moment you know, you've got to have it in you bury it, but it's got to be in there. It's got to be percolating and yesterday, like I said, almost made myself sick. By the time I finally, you know, I've walked out the door. I was just like, you know, and you get this kind of post adrenaline rush. Rather come down, I should say. But that's what it's all about it. This is acting one on one. I don't pretend to be angry. I get angry, right. I mean, I make myself angry.
Pete Turner 12:56
So you more of a method guy in general, or
Michael broderick 12:58
this is see this. I would call this miser. miser is all about loading up the emotional condition. And even using substitutes, which I think I'm not as familiar with the method. Sure. I don't think the method they substitutes. It's like, they use actual experiences, things like that. Whereas I, you know, I'll just think things that make them mad.
Pete Turner 13:18
Yeah. Yeah, it works. Well, it's interesting because furious, like, if you look at the roots of those words, you know, US means full, you know, so like, Wonder us. Right, right. You know, laborious, you know, so they really, you are full of fury. Yeah. Right. Do you believe that word fear? Like, I know, the writer writes what they want, but do you trust that they really mean furious? Or do they mean high rate?
Michael broderick 13:44
Okay, you have to I mean, it's one thing if you're if you're like, when I was on true, Detective, you can get used to the way the writer writes. Yeah. Okay. So not that I would ever say that Nick has a lot of doesn't mean every word he says horse. He absolutely does. Yeah, but I'm sure there, there are writers on shows where it's a team of writers and you know, whatever. So they might use words because you use words that aren't necessarily as accurate as they could be. So you have to trust the pattern of the show or the or the tone of the show. But at an audition, you have no idea you have to you have to take their word for it. Yeah, literally, you know, and just go with it. Funny, though, we have to trust the tone of the show. I was just gonna say that doesn't matter. It's flew by able to come back to you.
Pete Turner 14:24
Okay, so so furious, right, you come in and you've got the fury.
Michael broderick 14:27
That's what about Do you mind? Perfect. So that's what I hope. I'm amazed at how many words have been dumbed down to just mean good or great. Yeah. Like, awesome. Yes. Does not mean great. Fantastic. does not mean great. Yeah. You know, fantastic means there's, there's a there's an element of fantasy to it. You cannot believe it. Right. Like, unbelievable is now means great. Yeah. You know, like, everything just means great. And they had these words all had very specific meanings. vented, but, you know, awesome, fantastic. Stick. Wonderful. Yes. All these things just now mean, good. You know, it's sad. I look, I say awesome all the time. I do too. And so it you know, I'm as guilty as anyone else. But you know, when I when I think about it, and you asked about did they really mean that word ass? You know what I mean? But you nailed it full of fury? Yeah, you know, so it saddens me a little bit that that language is used so casually. Now, yeah, I think in the in the spoken word is I give you a little break. But in the written word, certainly, I think it's,
Pete Turner 15:31
especially if you're trying to one of the things I learned is that the military, we think about effect, like these 15 actions will lead to this conclusion. But in reality, an effect is so much more powerful, you know, and not using ethic as a verb, as a noun as a, as a response to stimuli. So you're thinking, emotional, emotive, kind of things. Like, if we put out a message on the radio was psyops if we're not getting the desired emotional response. We're not communicating very well. And the whole thing of that, right. So it sounds like it's a similar thing, where as the person who's writing this, you know, audition side that you have to learn, you know, I really need to make sure that you are going to be able to convey the emotion I want, you know, and all the other, all the other audition things aside, maybe you're not the guy should be, you know, maybe you are the guy that was like he was not the guy for this, but you know, who is
Michael broderick 16:25
Yeah, boom, let's
Pete Turner 16:25
bring in Broadway, you know, kind of thing. So, when you do think about language, and then the power of those words, and you're a writer, you really do owe that to the person who's going to sit in that chair
Michael broderick 16:35
and try to deliver it was the I am not a writer. So I but I, as an actor, I try to bend my will towards respecting what i think you know, you can only guess until you get the job, you can only guess right but respecting what I think their intention is. And the only indication I have that of that is the written word.
Pete Turner 16:53
I was watching. Because, you know, I'm always trying to work on improving what I do as an as a host, you know, I mean, I have a lot of interview kind of skills, because being a spy, but you know, I watched it, Kevin, because there's an older style, right? Yeah,
Michael broderick 17:05
sure. Yeah,
Pete Turner 17:06
he's still alive. So I can't wait. I desperate to get him on the show. As long as he's old enough that you have to wonder like, is he that as we have it all together? But if he does, I'm hoping that I can sit across from him. Wow, he's a master. Yeah, sure. So he was talking to Alfred Hitchcock. Yeah. And so it just like, wow, let me just shut up and watch this, like three times in a row. And it's it's a short segment. But he talked about, you know, what he needs from Alfred Hitchcock. So he's a master at directing. Yeah. But he talked about how you could take someone like Jimmy Stewart making a face, you know, acting in a certain way. But the next shot can be a baby with the mom, or it can be an ingenue, or it can be an older, and you can make that guy into three different kinds of assholes or saints and depending on that in between shots, so he's like, how important is the
Michael broderick 17:52
actor? Oh, absolutely. I mean, it was it was a Russian experiment in film where they just showed man's face and just looked into the line news, that's very neutral. It was that's where I was employed for neutral look, right? And then they showed a picture of, I think it was like a coffin. And it was a picture of a baby. And then it has a picture of a beautiful woman. And when they asked people okay, what does he feeling now? What does he feeling now? And they were just reflecting what they were feeling like onto a neutral face. It was the same every time. But they said, Okay, now he's feeling sad. Now he's in love now feels maternal only, you know, whatever it is. We're just projecting our feelings onto
Pete Turner 18:32
this canvas. So yeah, I mean, you hopefully the director is making in the actors working with a director to make that projection kind of focused. But you're right. It's it. There's a lot of our own things, you know, like when I watched stars, porn stars, so I was watching the stars born. And I've had a I've had an adult girlfriend before. And so I'm like, wow, I'm just like vomiting my emotions all over this movie that's designed to pull that out of me. Sure. Now, and I'm just like, God, what a genius this way to make me respond. Because when I watched the Kris Kristofferson, Barbra Streisand version, not does it didn't work for me, right. But this version watching this, that part of the train wreck, and I was like, Oh, yeah,
Michael broderick 19:11
you know, I enjoyed the film. I shouldn't say I love it. Very well made. Yeah, I felt like it could have ended with him in the garage. Yeah, it was 20 minutes too long. Okay, you need a bit at the end. Yeah, that's just me.
Pete Turner 19:23
I think I favor that model of a movie more. I definitely don't need a two hour movie all the damn time. I'm no longer into the roller coaster comic book thing where it's like this impossible scenario in this impossible scenario. And I would rather have something that's more of a thriller, I suppose, than the roller coaster thing. But also, if I've got Lady Gaga there to bring it home. I wasn't mad at them for doing that. But I'm with you. Like, that's the moment? Yeah, no, cut the black Fade to black. Whatever.
Michael broderick 19:52
Yeah. And by the way, if that was a surprise to anyone, yeah, they just haven't been alive long enough or right.
Pete Turner 19:58
Yeah. I mean, it was it, you know? Yeah, it was, it was comparable, in godfather to when Robert Duvall goes to the old Italian guy who's in federal custody, and they basically have the speech and nothing is said, but everybody knows that the end of this whole thing. We're going to have the Italian mob guy opening his veins, because he says he's gonna do it, you know, right. It's the same kind of thing where you have the record exact, basically telling the Bradley Cooper character like, you know, this is never going to happen with you. And so we all know. Yeah, but even knowing it still hits you with it. Yeah.
Michael broderick 20:31
Yeah, it was, like I said, it's a well made movie. I love the bits of them playing together. I'm a former musician. And, and I really do miss playing live. And when I see something like that, you know, I'm like, yeah, you know, I never did get to play in front of those huge crowds. I only did like the club circuit.
Pete Turner 20:47
Yeah. CPG. You talked about that. Just once.
Michael broderick 20:49
I would like to play a stadium. Right.
Pete Turner 20:51
And you play guitar. Yeah. When you when you before we get into music, I do want to talk because this shows got a lot of music roots in it. But I want to get back into the emotional things. So what words mean things right? Yeah, absolutely. Kind of bringing in I always like you to this I talked about them entirely too much. But bottle explores love, but he explores it from multiple perspectives and spiritually, right like so there's Ordinary Love, and there's, you know, new love and all these different ways. And just like you really think about what love can be, and the and the shot of love that comes out of that central core. It doesn't just go in one line. There's like the love you have for your kid. That's the love you have for your friend, you know, all different things and ways of doing it. Do you play with those emotions as you try to figure out what to fill up with like, this is this particular kind of love.
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Michael broderick 22:16
Yeah, I think so. I mean, because, you know, that's, that's an emotion that hopefully, everybody can relate to. Yeah. And yeah, there are so many different flavors and colors of it. So I would guess, because this is now now the only reason I'm hesitant to answer is because this is something that I I assume I do, which is automatically Yeah. And so I imagine it's colored by what the text is. Yeah, you know, what the circumstances are, I try to match up the best case. And if it's something that actually happened to me, you know, if it's a similar situation that I can put a lot of myself into, yes, use that. Right, you know, just memory work. And that's more into the method stuff. Yeah. But on, you know, I'll steal from whatever works journey now. So, you know, the path of least resistance if I if I'm able to get there quickly, by remembering. I'll give you a quick example. Maybe I shouldn't, my mom might listen to this. But abandonment, you know, there was there was a time when I was in the Corps. And and, and I went, you know, we used to go to sleep circle, which is something in June, I was stationed on a newer, you go over to swoop certainly pay a guy 20 bucks or 40 bucks, whatever, he'll take you up to DC and drop you off and they'll pick you up on Sunday night you drive back together. And it's usually something you don't know not rain, whatever. At Sunday night, I'm waiting to for him to come pick me up and you never show us and this is you know this back before cell phone, nobody will phone you know, whatever. And you just never shows is getting later and later and later. And I'm like, and I spent all my money except for what I was gonna pay the guy to get, you know, and I call my parents. And I was like, I'm stuck in DC. Can you give me like, give me a plane ticket? Something my mom, my mom said, you know, you got yourself there. Yeah, you get yourself back. And looking back now. I'm like, that was the right move. Yeah, as a parent, you like you made your bed. Now I don't know if you understood the stakes of being UA and shit like that boy. And out of bounds again. But as a parent that was you know, I was grown. I was grown ass man. I was mine. Take care of it. You know, I care. And I eventually did. I showed up mid day, the next day and got it got a got a stern talking to from my Sergeant Major about troop circle and blah, blah, blah. But I was relatively new to the squadron. So they, they they kind of let it slide. But the feeling when she said she wasn't going to help me. Yeah, I felt betrayed and abandoned. And I use that a lot. Like, that's something that's so still so very fresh in me like I can if there's some kind of disappointment or something I need to draw, and I go to that, and it still works for me.
Pete Turner 24:44
We had a guy that he plays show tonight, a whole lot on the show. And he was talking about the damage that he respects the damage that can happen by playing sugar whole aka sugars is a monster. I mean, for the most part, you know, like willing to harm people for his own better. It doesn't get much worse than that. So and if so if you're listening, I god bless get better. Dominic is his name. And he looks like he looks the part and I'm like, Do you worry that maybe you're causing some internal mental damage by accessing this person that much? And he's like, yeah, I'm aware that there's a danger there and I try to account for it. I'm asked to do my job. I do it well, but I am going into a part of me that is not the best part. Yeah, yeah. So do you have similar kind of concerns when you play someone that's evil?
Michael broderick 25:28
It's funny. I'm working on this and in you know, when I when I work with Lacey group, I've been working on some characters that are I have difficulty with cruelty. I can be an asshole. Like, there's a I played a character in power on stars, whereas a NYPD detective Yeah, and I'm gonna cry. It's my crime scene. Some fed comes rolling and and you know, I'm like, back to the wall. You know what I mean? Like, I can be a scrappy little dog. Yeah. Be a jerk. Yeah, I mean, because I feel like I'm right. Yeah, but to BO and I got to play the flip side of that equation where I'm the FBI guy Ryan on on an episode of SWAT. So I play both sides of that, but I have difficulty being cruel. Like for no reason like
Pete Turner 26:12
being so your struggle was me being cruel as opposed to it's too easy for me to be cruel like it's the Oh yeah,
Michael broderick 26:18
it's like I have difficulty finding that in myself. So I have to like kind of like practice on your dogs and stuff. No, no, I do I do it and when we when we do scenes you know guys like OK scenes where I have to do that you know, I have to so it's like working out in the gym. You know, if you suck at squats get under a fucking bar, right?
Pete Turner 26:35
Yeah, no, that's great. That's brilliant actually to be able to get into that. So the talking about flavors and colors with emotions. Do you have a sense for what those flavors and colors actually are? Do you think in those terms? Because there's that is a thing like i said i
Michael broderick 26:48
i don't know if I have a lot to say on that because I think it just happens automatically you know, did what the what the situation is it in the story what what the words are? Yeah, and that just kind of you know, it flows in flows out.
Pete Turner 27:01
Yeah, cuz there's a guy who plays the drums and there's a name for night escapes me right now. But he drums by color. He actually has a color. And then he plays that groove based on that. I'm really simple aspect. I don't know. But it's a spectrum II kind of thing. That
Michael broderick 27:17
absolutely is right. Yeah, I
Pete Turner 27:19
mean, it's got a full name and it's it's like many small words put together into something that probably a German guy probably named it. But yeah, it's fascinating. And then we have another guy, another musician, who a veteran. His name is Charles Charles Quinn, and he plays bass or he plays keys and he leaves the whole building he's not there anymore and he goes to the color that he needs and maybe it's his time in the Navy and Italy he thinks about Tuscan red, not because Tuscany and red go together. Yeah The reason but in his mind, and that's the groove that's the thing that is interesting.
Michael broderick 27:51
Wow, that's cool. Yeah, I don't have anything like that. Mine's pretty straightforward. I try to use things I've experienced or things I've seen it you know think about seeing movies sometimes it just that make me just you know the kill me when you're playing the good side. How often do you play guitar Do you play at all anymore? I play I try to play every day. Okay, you know I got a guitar in the bedroom. I got several keep one on a stand just to pick up and oh, when I was doing True Detective in Arkansas. First thing I did when I got off playing was I you know, I gave me a rental car and I went to Guitar Center I bought a cheap little Yeah, you know, acoustic just to keep my hotel room. Cuz I just need to play Yeah, it's like a decompression thing. So yeah, I play all the time. I don't
Pete Turner 28:31
have that I would music I could see the color thing I can understand that better. Do you leave the room and you play like are you present in your situation? Or do you
Michael broderick 28:42
know I don't go any like, I don't go by by you know, I'm still very, very present. But when, when I'm playing well see, I'm not a shredder. I'm like, I'm a Townsend fan. So a lot of rhythm and stuff like that. And you know, I can play some lead. When it's flowing, man. You just that's when I'll sing. I mean, like, I don't sing a lot. But if I'm feeling it, you know, then then yeah, yeah, you know, open my mouth.
Pete Turner 29:08
Yeah, I played a little bit too and I don't have the desire and apparently, I'm not going to develop the chops to play a lot of lead stuff. So like when I tried to learn how to play octopuses garden when I was taking lessons, you know, that doo doo doo doo doo doo doo, doo doo. Yeah, I just, I can never make my brain shut off long enough just to let my I can play it. But I have to like, put my tongue out. Look at my head, you know, everything but play it well, you know? So I don't do that. But the rhythm part. That's all I really need. And then I struggle with keeping my voice and then like the the key insane, which is actual singing. But if I didn't have to worry about being a slave to the other one, and I'm not good enough of a player to play in the key that's most comfortable for my voice maybe? Yeah, now we're naturally sits I should actually like, you know, I'm always in a minute. Seventh keys are my voice likes to be good enough to do that. But I wanted to ask you about your music so you don't leave the room but you play. Do you play your own things? Do you play? I'm not a writer.
Michael broderick 30:10
Okay, I play other people's stuff. See?
Pete Turner 30:12
What comes to you like when you sit down and you want to warm up? What do you just go to right away?
Michael broderick 30:17
Usually Thunder Road Springsteen? Yeah, that's, you know, I grew up listening to choice on the Jersey Shore. Yeah, right. Usually Thunder Road, but I like a lot of riffs. I like like, Townsend did a lot of little triads and PEDAL TONES running on any like substitutes one of my favorites. Yeah, I'll do that. I'll do a little Tom Petty something or other. But yeah, things that feel good. honor my fingers and, you know, resonate and kind of fill the space. That's been more, you know, since I stopped playing in a band. And when I was in the band, we played our own stuff. Sure. I just didn't write it. So I don't consider it my stuff. Yeah, I got you. But I'm liking more stuff where it's big sounding. You know, I like strumming but also picking some melodies out and stuff like that. Getting into more of that. Because when you play by yourself, you gotta you know, yeah.
Pete Turner 31:05
When I first came back from combat, I did a lot of racecar driving with my friends. And there's no room for anything else. But that windshield and what's in it. Gotcha. And just, you know, so that all the other stuff is just not?
Michael broderick 31:17
Yeah, I think when you're in the right space, it everything else kind of goes away. I don't mean to say that, that can't be broken instantly by you know.
Pete Turner 31:26
Yeah.
Michael broderick 31:27
So I, you know, that's why I'm afraid to use the word that, you know, I don't go anywhere. I'm still very price, right. But there is that kind of feeling where, like I said, when it's when it's flowing, you know, and yeah, and it just sounds good. And so yeah, it definitely fills me up that way. Yeah, it's usually playing an old favorite. Yeah, you know, I don't I don't really get that way experiment, because I don't I don't experiment that much. I might experiment on on new ways to play a song, you know, if it's not a song I haven't played before, but they're much more conscious, because you're still trying to figure it out, you know, right. But I'm not a combat veteran. You know, I served during relative peacetime, you know, a couple of things happen while I was in but I always seem to miss them. You know, I'd be in the Mediterranean went to the other half my squadron gets called out for operation praying mantis or right, you know, whatever. While I did have I did struggle with reintegration a little bit. I never had to deal with some of the things that the guys and women have to deal with nowadays.
Pete Turner 32:22
When you think back on your service, a lot of the things I get, we had a number of actors. Tito Ortiz a good example. He's desperate to prove to us that he could hack it. Right. And I'm like, Tito, you're fine. You, you can hack it. You're not just an elite athlete, your world champion amongst elite athletes, you know, like, you're tough enough.
Michael broderick 32:44
Oh, do you mean like hacking and
Pete Turner 32:46
logging? Yeah, like, just in general. Like, he's like, I want to go through marine basic boot camp. And I'm like, there's no point don't Yeah, you know, so do you have that similar kind of sense where like you not regrets or anything but like, I just wish I had my chance to take that
Michael broderick 33:02
while you're definitely hitting hitting on the right note for me I do deal with some I don't know if it's regrets but right. Wondering. Yeah, Wonder Sure. You know, and look, I was in a support MLS. So I mean, you know, it's not like I was a door kicker. Even when I was in Yeah, you know, I didn't even get to practice door kick. Yeah, I was in logistics and embarkation, man Attack Helicopter Squadron. But, but a vital work by Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.
Pete Turner 33:29
It's easy to beat yourself up over. So yeah, I didn't have control. Oh,
Michael broderick 33:32
yeah. And I, I used to struggle with that a little bit, especially post 911. You know, and it was actually Command Sergeant Major Jeff Mallinder who kind of wrote me a note one day, I don't know if I asked him about it, or, or maybe pick something up and something I wrote on Facebook, or I don't know, any any just said, Look, you know, you served your time you you did your role, you know? Yeah. And I don't remember his words exactly. But it made me feel calm wall in my own skin as far as that goes. So post 911. I've kind of re rediscovered the veteran community. Or I should say I rediscovered the military community. Because once I got out, I was done. Right. Like I didn't there was nobody around me that was a veteran or anything like that in New York City, or at least you know, not tons of them. Yeah. But post 911. I just wanted to do my part to continue to serve and support role like the military, you know, like, just support veterans organizations or whatever, you know,
Pete Turner 34:31
yeah, no, I mean, it's That's exactly right. How do you continue to serve? Because you do have anybody who raises their right hand? Has that in them whether or not they're able to pursue it or whatever, we all have this desire to serve to say, no, it's okay, I'll do this, I will help here, I will put myself in danger. And the sergeant major was right, you, you raise your right hand and you work at the needs of the Marines, you know, and and you did exactly what you're supposed to do, and you serve honorably. But we do we are hard on ourselves about yesterday,
Michael broderick 34:58
even comma, um, I think it's just a male thing. I mean, I think it's exacerbated by being being mattering. Yeah. And not getting called up when when it when it goes down. But I think like, like, with Tito Ortiz, you know, warrior, you know, so so I think it is a male thing.
Pete Turner 35:15
Yeah, you might be right, because I have a little bit of a to where nobody's got more combat time than I do. I would go outside the wire all the time, you know, sometimes with a patrol sometimes, you know, with very little support, I had to realize that like, No, actually, I was doing it. I actually did those things actually are crazy and impossible. And I should be dead several times over. But even that, with that level of experience, I've had to go. No, it's actually okay. Like, I was a spy, I went on 1000 missions, I really talked to all these different, because in my mind, it's like, wow, you know, maybe I should have just got along tab or maybe I should have gone to this, you know, maybe I should have gone Delta. Right, did all these things, but I didn't do this, like,
Michael broderick 35:53
yes, that regrets. It's just not, you know, it's always I won't say that. Obviously, not every male but it is true. A male trade to kind of push a little further. It's our mindset folks to join the military. Generally speaking, yeah, you, you, you, you know, you're you're always willing, or looking at that next level and saying, Oh, you know, If only I'd If only I'd done that. Or, you know, cuz that's, some of us have more of it than than others. I was, you know, I would have I would have signed up. Give me Oh, 311.
Pete Turner 36:24
Yeah, well, okay. So would you tell young Michael, like, Hey, you may want to pursue that, again, not regrets, but like, an informed decision, you know, where you're like, you know, what, I don't want to be in this support role. I want to be whatever, more out front or three wheel or 311? Or maybe I want to, you know, know that I'm going to deploy it on a ship more
Michael broderick 36:42
only only as an old man. Okay. You know, first let me say this. Yeah, I wouldn't change. I made a lot of mistakes. Yeah, yeah, of course, I wouldn't change anything, because it got me to where I am right. Now. Maybe I wouldn't have met my wife. Yeah, like it. So who knows? So I don't know if I change anything, but everything else if everything else could be the same? Yeah, I would have actually, I would have gone the other way. And I would have signed up for six and gotten my goddamn broadcast journalism. MLS. Yeah, there you go. So yeah, it's like I, you know, they, they get they put all these like, they put four things in my MLS package. You know, there could be this if you sign up for it could be this, this, this or this? broadcast journalism, photo journalism, mapping, and surveying and logistics and embarkation? Like Put your top three and I put them you know, that that three broadcast journalism, photo journalism, mapping and surveying sounds interesting. Okay. And I didn't even put Yeah, of course, they give me agencies in my case.
Pete Turner 37:37
Yeah, you know, needs of the Marines, right. But
Michael broderick 37:39
I knew, you know, even back then I wanted to be an actor. So I figured broadcast journalism was a way to get a little camera time,
Pete Turner 37:45
and at least have some experience of how that whole system works right.
Michael broderick 37:48
Within the Marine Corps. And it's working great. Yeah, yeah. But you know, look, I look back, it's still the greatest thing I've ever done. As far as for myself. Yeah. Because and look, I did the, you know, I don't want to I'm not trying to talk down my service. But I mean, I did. I wasn't asked a lot. There wasn't, he? didn't ask much of me. Yeah. Go through boot camp. Right. During the title. Yeah. Do your job. Yeah, do your job. And sometimes it failed at that. But other times I excelled. Yeah. So earning the title marine getting through boot camp. How was it? You know, I'm still a little like a small dude. But But back then I was tiny. Yeah. And that's why I chose Marines. And so to to to achieve that, at the time just told me Look, dude, if you bend your will to it, you can do it. And that's why I was able to come out to Hollywood at 40 years old. Yeah. And start a career. Yeah. 30s, late 30s. But still,
Pete Turner 38:42
but either way. I mean, you you have done something, everybody comes to this town who wants to be an actor with a similar thing, whether they come in at eight years old, or they come at 55 years old, and they walk in like, I'm going to do this. But the dream isn't the hard part. You know, the hard part is figuring out making the mistakes making the right mistakes, saying, you know, saying yes, and getting better. I'll make all of those. There's so many things and you can do everything right and never even get
Michael broderick 39:09
Oh, absolutely. You can be supremely talented and not. And well, look, if you do everything right, and you're supremely talented as a really good dancer, you know, you're gonna do okay. But you can be extremely talented and not do the right things. Yeah. Or not say yes, at the right time. Or, you know, whatever it is. So yeah, it's a lot to try to navigate
Pete Turner 39:31
that. And even if you're supremely talented, you have to work as hard as your peers do, because it will don't there was a guy who was going to outwork you. Yes, absolutely. That person will get your role. You know, and, and our show is full of people like that where I wasn't the best bass player. You know, I wasn't the best whenever I wasn't, you know, all these things. But I was able to stay in it. I was able to outwork everybody else and people had life choices they made not not a bad choice, but they went Hey, I'm gonna be and then now I think why I have this ridiculously impossible gig where I get to do what I love for a living because I was able to, you know, keep grabbing balls at second base when everybody else was tired. I had another hundred me.
Michael broderick 40:11
Yeah, you're you're you're you're hustling as soon as you hit the fat as soon as you cross that fell out on a field you're running. Uh huh. And running until you cross the finish line off the field. Yeah, that taught me Yeah, you know, as soon as you hit that field, you're running.
Pete Turner 40:21
Well, I love it, man. Listen, it's been about an hour I don't want to take all your day. I'll give a crap man. You want to ask me? No, no, this is great, man. Damn good. Perfect. Yeah, and I really appreciate being able to share time in your in your gym out here
Michael broderick 40:33
and my little my little man cave.
Pete Turner 40:35
Yeah. Photo studios,
Unknown Speaker 40:37
myself tapes and everything. Yeah,
Pete Turner 40:39
yeah. Would you play a song for us to close us out? Sure.
Michael broderick 40:43
Yeah, yeah, I don't gotta sing them.
Pete Turner 40:45
You don't gotta if you don't want to hear.
Michael broderick 40:47
What do you want me to play? Okay, everybody
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