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Taylor Dayne - Tell It To My Heart 30th Anniversary - Some of our favorite guests are bigger than their own careers. Taylor Dayne is one of these people...her music has become "our song" for millions of people; she literally sings people into love. Whether it's Love Will Lead You Back or Tell it To My Heart...you're instantly familiar with the words, the groove and the place you were at with that special someone; She's magic.
For all Taylor Dayne news, dates, music or autographed copies of her book, hit up TaylorDayne.com Taylor joins Pete A Turner and Jon Leon Guerrero for a fun chat about Taylor's career. Taylor being on the Break It Down Show is the good news...the GREAT news is that, Taylor is always on tour somewhere (insert appropriate COVID caveat here) Get Taylor Dayne's book Tell It To My Heart https://amzn.to/3epMlh1 REALLY it's fantastic. |
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Tell It To My Heart
We heard it and fell in love
Love will bring you back
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Tell It To My Heart
We heard it and fell in love
Love will bring you back
Similar episodes:
Dexter Holland https://youtu.be/eHLmW715EP8
Bryce Vine https://youtu.be/U7EKljvdHIc
Dave Best https://youtu.be/S2IaNLumljE
Executive Producer/Host: Pete A. Turner www.peteaturner.com
Executive Producer/Host/Intro: Jon Leon Guerrero Producer: Damjan Gjorgjiev
The Break It Down Show is your favorite best, new podcast, featuring 5 episodes a week with great interviews highlighting world-class guests from a wide array of topics. Get in contact with Pete at peteaturner.com breakitdownshow.com
Transcript
Pete Turner 0:00
Everybody Pete a Turner, executive producer and host of your break it down show our episode today is the official podcast release of our interview with Taylor Dayne. If you You all know dealer Dean is right Talia to my heart. She is an incredible singer who dominated for such a long time and has so many number one hits is a legend in the music world. And john and i will we got her all kinds of people from Facebook and elsewhere like oh, wow, Oh, wow. I can't wait to hear this.
Everybody Pete a Turner, executive producer and host of your break it down show our episode today is the official podcast release of our interview with Taylor Dayne. If you You all know dealer Dean is right Talia to my heart. She is an incredible singer who dominated for such a long time and has so many number one hits is a legend in the music world. And john and i will we got her all kinds of people from Facebook and elsewhere like oh, wow, Oh, wow. I can't wait to hear this.
So if you haven't heard the show yet, here's your chance to hear Taylor Dayne talking. And let me just tell you from interacting with her and and everything else, she is just exactly how you expect her to be. She's a real person full of love full of gratefulness, thankfulness, and I highly recommend what obviously her music, but especially her book, tell it to my heart. She gets into it. Hey, by the way, also, she's got a TED talk. If you type that in, you will get an idea what her journey was like because it's not all you know. Milk and Honey has some some rough stuff in there. So go ahead and check out this show, check out her TED talk for sure. If you're at all interested in Taylor didn't get her book, click on our link in the show. That's how you support us. And you will love this episode. I promise it is just so good. And we're going to get Taylor back once again when she's on the road, hopefully get her face to face at some point. So that'd be more coming from her. Okay, one last thing and I'm going to keep this intro short because you know what I'm going to say next, save the brave, save the brave.org that's where Scott john and I'll put our time and money and our efforts to make the world a better place and that's our charitable charter here at to break it down show. Alright, everybody, thank you so much for all of your support. Please continue to do it. I see it all over the place. It's fantastic. Here comes Can you believe I'm about to say this here. Chris Taylor Dayne lions rock productions.
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somebody there's a skunk Baxter Gabby Reese is Rob bell. This is john Leon Guerrero. Hey,
Pete Turner 2:01
and this is Pete a Turner.
Taylor Dayne 2:05
Hi, this is Taylor Dayne and you are listening to the break it down show.
Jon Leon Guerrero 2:12
Those are words we've been waiting to hear. And I'm excited that you're with us. Taylor Dayne emerged in 1987, which is a pivotal year for me and myself because it was the year that we both graduated from high school. So you can imagine what in a workplace in our hearts you you occupied, because just as you were taking the world by storm, we were entering adulthood and going to the clubs where you'd be played, and we still grew up in that age where you call the DJ, and you got the DJ to play the songs that you wanted, which in the bay area where we grew up, where guys like sway and Theo Misa hora and Rick Chase, and we were all a part of that. emergence. So we have been with you your entire career means a lot that you'd be on our show. Thank you.
Taylor Dayne 3:08
And Joan and Jones happy to all right. You know, we got to represent people we love all these years too. So I appreciate that, guys, thank you so much for so many years of support. And, and I understand I mean, I was in the clubs in New York, you were in the Bay Area. And those DJs last night a DJ saved my life. They saved my life. Yeah. You know, those clubs, you know?
What was the drinking age when you were graduated high school?
Jon Leon Guerrero 3:35
It was 21 on the west coast. The East Coast. We were given a good ride. Yeah. Wow. For when I'm from Guam originally, and I went back to Guam right after I graduated where the drinking age was 18. So we went crazy back there.
Taylor Dayne 3:51
Well, we just had a life. Yeah. Yeah, you
Jon Leon Guerrero 3:55
have a book out now and you're going on
Taylor Dayne 3:59
all the time. Have a copy of it here. I'll let you say, well, the ad that my book is this is all celebrating 30 year. It's how I lost my shit conquered my fear and found my voice literally. Yeah, I put up I put up a TED, my TED talk that kind of was the impetus for this book. I did Ted Ted, in 2016. And it really was that was a six month process of really writing, rewriting. And then it really led me and my book mentor and my book guru, Linda cybersyn, who has an incredible podcast as well. She's the one that said you need to do a TED talk, because doing a book is gonna take you two years. So the TED Talk, no, and then I was like, This TED Talk is almost as you know, in depth and is crazy. But really, it really helped me set up for my 30 year anniversary and the book is out and it's, I'm real proud of it and it's a now 30 years, 30 years this week, lovely tobacco number one, I'm like getting all these, you know, people are obviously home and a lot of us are doing what we're doing. You know, just Commit you know connecting with each other through zoom social media any which way we can so it's been really kind of nice to see all these I'm really present I'm not on the road I'm not traveling I'm really president seeing all this and it's beautiful.
Pete Turner 5:14
Yeah, let me just say we get a lot of really very notable people on the show all the time we had representative Dan Crenshaw who just dropped the book on last week but when I put out that we were gonna have you on the show it hasn't stopped people listen, you must Yeah, they love you. They
Taylor Dayne 5:31
must know this
Pete Turner 5:34
Hey Taylor, people love you. They couldn't say enough nice things I'm kind of run through them here on the bottom of the screen. But just people just are just ecstatic that that you were coming on and celebrating it so good.
Taylor Dayne 5:49
Guys, you guys need to like play if you record you know, in a blessing for him a little bit. I'm touched. I'm I'm ever so moved. And and I love you guys. Thank you. Don't worry,
Jon Leon Guerrero 6:02
we got a lot of questions to ask you about all kinds of stuff we got catching up to do. Um, I really want to start all the way back there because a lot of people know you know your songs and and your emergence on the radio, especially here on the west coast, but you were also the opening act on Michael Jackson's bad tour.
Taylor Dayne 6:20
Well, that's kind of like graduating high school. Yes, I graduated high school. I went right into the clubs. I was a, you know, an emerging artist and my first tour, obviously, the single came out in 87. So imagine six months later, it broke it, but here it came out in 87. In Europe, that's what a lot of people don't know in the book will kind of sets up the entire story. So it was released in Europe first, and it blew up the clubs, right. It started is in the clubs, obviously. And then, you know, calls to stations which were calling radio stations. That's really what it was. So DJs had such an impact on that that grassroots spread for Taylor Dang, because they didn't even have a photo of me on the phone. Single which was tailored to my heart, and it was a 12 inch. Then we got into what was called cassette singles. Yet no album that was signed to Arizona for a single single option album. There was no album in the works, other than I was a demo singer and I was obviously hustling and working with Rick wake at that point. He was my producing partner. We just delivered a single I went to a private promoter because we'd already been doing a couple of singles. And that was with Rick, wait, we funded it, we put it out, and then we got to buy it with rst records.
Jon Leon Guerrero 7:30
You made that thing for 6000 bucks. No doubt.
Taylor Dayne 7:33
Right. And then it got sold for $18,000. It's this song, the one you hear? Yeah. It's astounding. It's astonishing because what it did was it took six months. It blew up in Europe. Obviously I won. And that's the tour I ended up doing with Michael leading back to Michael Jackson and meeting Prince and everybody It was during that year, those two years where I primarily was in Europe and then it broke in the United States in 1988. Then it started getting Grammy the Grammy nominations because you have to be in a certain window. And I didn't even show up for the Grammys for nominations till 89. For the same album, well, because we had five top, you know, top 10 hits on that it just kept going. It was amazing. And there was no album so it took me six months to make a record, or the six, we call it the six week record, because at that point, Aristo never made that mistake again, with you know, a sub base Milli Vanilli any of the acts they had, they had at least a couple of songs in the can, they will lose in you know, you can't sell singles that much, you know, you gotta sell records.
Jon Leon Guerrero 8:38
And they learn that from you.
Taylor Dayne 8:41
I definitely was the petri dish and testing for so many things, you know, when they say they just threw the record out there. They didn't want my picture on I think the first single because obviously, my voice was very, very provocative and I guess it had a you know, there was no demo necessarily pour it and they just wanted to see where it fell. And it hit hard. And it just started going number one throughout Europe. And I spent the first six, seven months in Europe doing Montreux meeting prints doing going on tour them with Michael for the bad tour, and it continued from there and then it swelled and, and it kept moving. And it was incredible.
Pete Turner 9:18
What do you attribute that breakout to? I mean, you've got it your own label is hedging. And then kaboom. Taylor shows up.
Taylor Dayne 9:28
Well, you don't look at it that way. I was like, Oh my God, we got signed. I was doing singles before that. But it was under Leslie Wonder Man or Leslie. I mean, if you guys know my history, like I was in the clubs, paradise garage, Zanzibar I was hustling. So there's no mistake. We just knew we needed to get more of a crossover record and put a more of a crossover record. Rick and I were a team. I mean, we came in we signed as blue productions. That was us. We signed. We signed a single Oh, that was it. We already had prove you love kind of in the works. It was the same writers. That's the worst. Look up. I mean, don't rush me, I'd already done background vocals and sang sang the demos for you know, that was the third single Clive brought in I'll always love you. But that was when we were really and this was on the makings of making a record. It was astonishing. If you can see on that first album, I've upon the journeys and because I was working in a Russian nightclub before that, and one of the writers I really love Joe sharone. I mean, I have story after story for every song. It's just amazing how it ended up on an iconic album like that ultimate.
Jon Leon Guerrero 10:26
Yeah, an iconic album on an iconic label that's known for powerful female singers. So well, that's
Taylor Dayne 10:33
the interesting thing. You know, your your intention. So that was I grew up in New York. So during that time, in that mid 80s, if you guys remember how all of a sudden we had this incredible radius station called kiss FM, right? Yeah, came out. And it started playing shard a right it started playing Whitney Houston, then you started hearing all of a sudden you started hearing. Aretha Franklin again you started hearing to Natalie Cole is On the blue man who pink Cadillac, so these women, these voices and then of course then we have Whitney Houston, I go, whoever the hell is doing this and whoever gets these women Now not all these artists, but he certainly took Aretha Franklin from her 70s and broke her back again in the 80s. Natalie Cole, you know, I'm not saying Clive, I didn't do with that. But what I'm saying is that these voices were being honored and then of course, Whitney coming out a big voice a big challenge, and a hit record. I was like, I want to be whatever that whoever gets those voices will get me. Yeah. And it happened to get signed to Arizona. Yes.
Jon Leon Guerrero 11:38
And so how with Arizona How did it happen? That you landed there.
Taylor Dayne 11:44
It was really through the single we were promoting. I brought it to a promoter we have been working with during the time for others for a couple of other singles I had out if you guys want to get into the real, you know be cuts you can find one of my singles called Tell me can you love me? Can you really love me? I'm the one you Well, you're breaking, you know, play in those clubs. And those are the two singles we had. And then Rick was very confident and I was running. I was driving along the West Side Highway and I saw a kid I went to high school with, and he was working at Warner Chappell Music Publishing, and I got a tape. And one of the songs on there was telling to my heart, I said to Rick, Rick said, We need a crossover record, we need a record that really is going to get you know if we're really going to do this. And one of the singles on one of the songs on there was tell it to my heart. And he goes, that's the one we should we should get that money from your dad borrow it. And my you know, we were playing. I was out there hustling. So that's kind of how it happened. So we went into one of the one of the private like I said, the we went to a to promoter, and he's the one that had some a&r. It was Andy Fermin ended up hearing it from Arizona records and brought it into Arizona and they signed it as a single. That's really what happened when we were releasing it ourselves. I mean, I knew how to get on the mix shows we know how to get into the dance schools. We were hiring somebody just as an independent promoter to put it out there in the polls and do our own buzz on it.
Pete Turner 13:07
So you had that part of the business figured out you just needed to get that next you need to cross genre or whatever. And you're right. You had great timing because you also didn't say the words. Cyndi Lauper, Madonna, Tina Turner, the 80s was when the ladies broke out the go Go's, it was totally possible for women to have a real career. And then you also had Chaka Khan was big then Lisa, Lisa, and the culture and all these female acts. It's like you all got together and said, Let's take over the music industry by storm right now in the mid 80s.
Taylor Dayne 13:40
It's quite amazing. I mean, when you knew Janet Jackson, you know, listen, Shaka was definitely an icon, a living legend, but you know, her career started in the 70s. For sure. Yeah, the 80s was Belinda myself, Debbie Gibson, if you will on that, Tiffany. Those girls broke but Cindy broke in. But even earlier, you know, Cindy was part of that, you know, boy, George, that whole that whole visual context and Madonna, that early 80s I came into 8788, like I said, but yeah, it was just, you know, we're all in high school watching this and this phenomenon. And that was the combination of MTV and of course, and giving these women a chance to be these visual, iconic images, you know, and of course, that first image you saw of me. Whoo, big hair, big lips, red lips and all that. It's not a hairspray.It holds an impression, I guess, guys.
Jon Leon Guerrero 14:38
Well, I have a question. But before I ask it, I want to say that you sort of batted cleanup in that era because all of those ladies came out and had great records. But you You came through with the most. I mean, comparable to Shaka, you came through with the most powerful voice and it was almost like the ad Were prepping for some powerhouse to show up in the late 80s. And really same from from
Taylor Dayne 15:07
had I had Whitney Houston I had a Rita I had a I had a label that understood how to you know, Clive is the song right so understood what a hit song was, and understood the you could have a great voice, but you still the song is the song, The song is the weight and tell it to my heart. It was that greatest song and obviously, the rest is history. But having now 19 Top 10 hits, right and then of course then Mariah broke in 1990. And you saw more and more of that. But then you saw a real retreat on that as grunge and more of the rock and roll took place in the 90s and as we started getting into our you know, rock and roll again and simplifying them coming down off that pop genre, but the 80s had a lot of that and it was slick and it was Rick and we were doing records but even when you saw what Aerosmith was doing but Janie's Got a Gun and All this stuff that was coming back pump it was pretty unbelievable. Yeah.
Jon Leon Guerrero 16:04
Well when it redefined their career for sure. And when I began Eagle came out it didn't have your picture on it. You was your image your image and, and yours that you brought to the label or did the label help you develop your look?
Taylor Dayne 16:19
That's I I'm going to tell you this quite frankly we went into a I went into a warehouse, they had a single, it was blowing up all over and it just said Taylor Dayne and that kind of graffiti. Tell it to my heart. If you saw that graffiti cover, it's a classic, you know, 12 inch I went into a warehouse I went into a studio, I went into an apartment, we were doing a shoot for the first look. I brought it all stuff. I was hanging out in clubs. And you know, like I said, this was late 80s or what I was doing and where I was hanging was St. Mark's. I was in private eyes. I was in Danceteria I was in going to Limelight just around that time but not as much I was in the clubs where music was playing dance which was paradise garage because I was working in a Russian nightclub trying to feed myself you know? Yeah, I was out I was 18 This is 19 now I'm 21 the the single art came from just being in a couple of incredible makeup artists hair stylist, those were all extensions and crimps and and I saw myself and I saw the clothes that I was wearing on St. Mark's and stuff from love, spit love as you know these big stores from second and eighth and I put it on I was like leather meets pleather meets, you know, it was very indicative and yet, we styled it and we played with the hair and the images are what you say it was really just playing more of 80s looked at I mean, if you saw some of my earlier photos, I was it was new way of meats. I guess more of a luxury or or more Dominick dominatrix and powerful image of what a woman could look like and Who was she. I look timeless, I look ageless. I know it was You know, I got many, many a call once that video released and once the image was backed to the song It made all sense to everybody.
Pete Turner 18:07
How would you classify you're obviously you, you do whatever the hell you want with your voice because it's, it's incredible. But what would you say is your whole genre where you're like, I can sing this kind of song all day all night? Like, what's your home genre?
Taylor Dayne 18:23
If you asked me that, I would have said, I'm a rock and I'm a rock singer. I never thought of pop, you know, like, I had to learn just like you had to learn that you know, what's popular, what to label yourself is almost as dangerous as as, as the idea of of getting stuck in a genre, you know, being cast in a genre of the music you do. I have had music that I'm blessed to say it's been on every chart. r&b, not hip hop, r&b. I was nominated for Best Female r&b vocalist I mean for Grammys, you know, best r&b single that was love, always love you pop, Adult Contemporary Dance, I've had that voice and that music that has crossed over and that was kind of a blessing but it was also very difficult because as even we would say at the labels like you know, I can sing the phone book but you know, how do we use a hit record it's a record that translates and things I didn't even realize like I'll always love you how it would translate I wasn't signed up for that song I was signed up for Don't rush me I was signed up for shelter I was signed up those are the things I understood a ballad. It took me a while to understand the impact of what a level leads you back. I mean, when I first heard level you back, I was way into understanding. I'm a pop vocalist, I'm a but if you asked me my genre with leading with r&b you know I'm an r&b vocalist.
Jon Leon Guerrero 19:53
I second that motion. Hey, I'm looking at the comments and Ramona Perry ployment just said, I named my Daughter Taylor. That's pretty neat comment, you sing a lot of songs about love. If you were go through everybody can go look up your your discography and there's a lot of song titles in there about love, but you've obviously
Taylor Dayne 20:15
predominantly every song I've, you know, at least the singles. Yeah,
Jon Leon Guerrero 20:19
yeah. Well, what what else do you want to explore now at this juncture of your career because you've led a full life and you've you're raising teenagers and you, you've done a lot of things. Um,
Taylor Dayne 20:34
I think what we're trying to explore right now is music that motivates write music that I think it's something upbeat, something that connects you always want to connect to the heart, right? So to me, it's always been about that my truthfulness and how I sing is the authenticity of the authentic. It my my integrity is in the authenticity, authenticity of what you hear. So The strength and the power behind my voice. I've had to rope it in at times. And I think, right now when you hear Drake's new slot, I mean, there's music that's coming out. And if I was in the studio working with somebody right now, or as we were, are changing and trading tracks right now, as opposed to doing honestly remotely. That feels right, it feels like we need this. This hub, we all need this hug and come together and a reason to go out on a dance movie foot, like for all of us to be as one and that's the beauty of music. It universally drives and it resonates and it holds. That's why I sing about love and heart because I guess it's very believable coming from a person like me. Who's very driven that way. My heart is very connected. Each song is a baby for me, if you will, a birth.
Pete Turner 21:48
Wow. Okay. I mean that it has to be that way, right? I mean, we were talking john and i with a singer yesterday, Janine Stang and she sings the national anthem like that's her main thing. But we were talking about how one of the artists we'd had on we think it was Stewart Copeland, I can't remember for sure. But he talked about you don't change the song once you've done it right, because you've already done the work. The audience wants that thing that you've already given them. Yeah. But as you get older Are you looking at like, I can change this with my new perspective as being a mom and having been around for a little while?
Taylor Dayne 22:20
Well, of course, that's the artists job, but I think we're talking about something like yeah, I can do an acoustic version of TELUS tomorrow. I can I can put it up any which way. I mean, I've been singing live cons. I've been doing many concerts from home and you get that impression. You know, you can get the form that and some of them I'm just listening back and going, Oh, my God, I haven't even traveled and listen to this and so long. I have to say when it comes to reinventing the wheel, you don't really need to reinvent the wheel. If the wheels running and it's working. I understand that what what really changes is every night your audience so your audience It's like going to see a play that's been on Broadway for 10 years. Do you really want to see? Funny Girl change the lyric the intention of it? Do you want to see? I mean, what is the what you know? What am I? Or Brent? Would you want to see the music change? Would you want that to be changed? I mean, I understand interpretation, but when what fans really want to do is connect with a moment in time right? And I understand where it gets stale for some artists and I can understand that and even for myself, I have changed arrangements of songs. But the message is clear the song is is is key. And that's what they want to hear in the lyric and I always tend to stay very truthful to that but my arrangements change if you listen to my arrangements Apollo is love you if you listen to my arrangements, of love lead you back and goes on and shelter and and quite frankly, your audience changes every night so does the emoji and you have to understand that as an artist and I've learned that
Pete Turner 24:02
Well, let's talk about the book for a minute.
Jon Leon Guerrero 24:06
I'd like to know who the book was for when you started writing it. And I'm sure that now it's for a lot of different people. It's for the generation of parents looking at the way they parented. It's for kids who are looking for their own voice. It's for that probably person in our generation who's still trying to figure it out. When you started the book, who was it for?
Taylor Dayne 24:31
It was for me.
Jon Leon Guerrero 24:32
Okay.
Taylor Dayne 24:34
Okay, me to get out. And to I hunkered down. I went to a writing retreat. I met with Linda Siva Stan, as I said, she became my book, Mama, my mentor. She didn't become my ghostwriter. And then it went into this journey of how, really how many times I've suppressed so many moments or not even deliberately, you know, just I'm a tour. I'm going out. Getting Things Done. And so many so much of this travel, I've not even, I never even took in, you don't really have the time or the capacity to take it in. It's so pushed forward. So this was this beautiful moment to reflect on the 30 years that I've put into this work and the, the joys, the tears, the, the desires, the reason why, why I feel the purpose now why I feel ever more present in my career than I did even if you if I was the number one position, just going through the rabbit, you know, on the hamster wheel not even knowing what I was doing this for anymore being led down doors that didn't even almost feel authentic at times. But I have to say it was for me. And then I realized it was for my parents and now I really you know, and it just kept it grows from there. My brothers, my, my fans, the women in my life, the men in my life and I've said that, you know And of course, the fans that now read it or get exposed to it and
Jon Leon Guerrero 26:06
as a book never ends, right? It's got long legs, as they say,
Pete Turner 26:10
Yeah, well, and you've lived such an impossible life. And had Thanks. Yeah, I mean, look, anytime these kind of things happen, you know, there's 10,000 other tailors out there who had something happen in their life, whether they met a guy or they took a job, or they didn't get that gig or whatever it was, and they didn't have it. And then you have all of the couples that you saying into love, you know, when they're at that dance, and they, you know, you became their song. These things are only captured in a book and through a lifetime of experiences that you put on the page. It's a remarkable thing. So yeah, it's a remarkable it's a remarkable life. Taylor. I got an extra long hug this morning with my wife Morgan house. Just she said, What are you doing today? I said, we're gonna we got we're bringing Taylor on the show. She embraced me and held on for a little a little longer. Hey, this is Pete Turner from lions rock productions. We create podcasts around here. And if you your brand or your company want to figure out how to do a podcast, just talk to me. I'll give you the advice on the right gear, the best plan and show you how to take a podcast that makes sense for you. That's sustainable. That's scalable and fun. Hit me up at Pete at breakdown show calm. Let me help. I want to hear about it. Okay, yeah,
okay.
Taylor Dayne 27:28
Yay.
Pete Turner 27:30
Whoa, let us back to Taylor. Hey, if you're gonna buy Taylor Dean's book, you should go to Amazon click on the link that always helps us and definitely helps tailor and then here's the thing. It's like, there it is the book right there. Here's the thing about when you buy the book, you have to leave a rating and review that is what bumps the book on the ratings. If you do that, you're not only of course, Taylor's gonna get paid but introduces other people to the book. So read it and review it. It's enormously helpful.
Jon Leon Guerrero 27:57
Here's the other thing when you look for it on Amazon You have to search for it under books because of course when you type in tell it to my heart. It takes me right to this thing which if you don't already own it, you should just buy it anyway. But search for it and
Taylor Dayne 28:11
get it off my you'll see guys even if you go to my Facebook you'll see on the banner it's the 30 year deluxe edition anniversary and I have new remixes. I even had fun with like some people in the jazz world, some cool producers that did remixes of it and it's my versions and it really helps me helps. Helps artists. It's the beautiful new one that came out in 2018 2019 the 30 year deluxe edition anniversary for tell it to my heart and it has every song and it has born to sing now the newest, newest, newest stuff I've released over the last few years.
Jon Leon Guerrero 28:49
Okay, yes do that. We are of the 12 inch generation. We like remixes like
Taylor Dayne 28:55
you know you're on there
Jon Leon Guerrero 28:57
about the single there were always like four versions of the song on there. There was a I saw you live at a it had to be in the probably mid 90s is probably about 93 or 94. And it was a daytime show at a racetrack in Berkeley called Golden Gate fields. And of course,
Taylor Dayne 29:22
with that, we are on a double bill with Joan Jett and myself or it was just me.
Jon Leon Guerrero 29:28
Oh, wow. I don't remember that. No, I think it was new. Okay.
Taylor Dayne 29:32
It was just fine. I mean, I played a few racetracks I have to be honest.
Jon Leon Guerrero 29:36
Yeah. And it was like a Sunday show and like, rock in the afternoon. And it was
Taylor Dayne 29:43
Yeah, because they have everybody coming into the racetrack and what we they did a concert series Normally, I mean, I used to do those myself but Belmont Park. I used to go to those those great concerts, and then the races would start it was just kind of amazing. Or they do it right after the races. They had a kind of captured audience and then they would go And then perform and you know, so it's pretty amazing so yeah, I understand so how was your
Jon Leon Guerrero 30:04
experience epic? Well, it was a generational shift because it was after the races so the races happened like in the in the daytime and then you came on afterwards all the old people left and a whole different new crowd came to them
and it was great we had a fantastic time all them old gamblers left I guess
Taylor Dayne 30:28
that's pretty awesome. That's great. Well that's what the probably the track wanted to get some new degenerates in there and gamblers.
Jon Leon Guerrero 30:37
No businesses business.
Taylor Dayne 30:39
That's right. Yeah. Well, thankfully it didn't take for me. I haven't been back to the racetrack since he never ran to try to get there. Yeah, sadly, obviously, it's been pushed, but we're still there. Still. It's postponed till September. But let me tell you something. I've hit that wall. Hard to get that better. Well
Jon Leon Guerrero 31:01
Spoken like a true voice races love the races no matter
Pete Turner 31:08
what. So yesterday, we had no mistake talking about singing the national anthem at a donkey basketball game. What's your what's your oddest place? you've performed that?
Taylor Dayne 31:23
Oh, come on guys. Shit I performed in my office two days ago.
Jon Leon Guerrero 31:28
Ah,
Taylor Dayne 31:30
I performed in my bathroom. You mean like venue wise? I mean, I first broke honey, let me explain to you when I first broke. The single was just entity right? I'd show up in a club in Germany and it was 1000 people that had crimped hair and, or to wanna try doing a show and you can't even hear yourself. I'm like, I need to hear the music, the monitors and it was just mind blowing. Yeah, a club in Tijuana probably had asked Relax and never earlier so yeah, been those always private shows are hysterical whether you're doing a bar mitzvah or a wedding and stuff, but I find it I mean, my my take on it all now for the last 15 years is so different than when I was like, chart chart chart my 20s and 30s is all dedicated to chart chart chart success numbers, numbers, numbers now, I have such a just a different piece. And it's just, you know, people are so happy when I sang a wedding. I've sang a, you know, obviously, some wedding song for many, many people, I'll always love you, or a birthday or whatever, and I just get out there and I'm just hugging you know, and just just with them, and I don't think those are odd, but I've got to think the sex club and to Ana was pretty good.
Pete Turner 32:46
That's what I was hoping for. Right?
Unknown Speaker 32:49
dx in that.
Unknown Speaker 32:52
Yes.
Unknown Speaker 32:54
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 32:56
You know,
Taylor Dayne 32:58
in Europe, let me tell you, I I've been known to listen, I haven't drank, too. And I've certainly gotten behind a piano bar too. And I don't think they're the weirdest places. It's just the most fun.
Jon Leon Guerrero 33:10
Well, it seems like you've done this on your own terms. And you seem to, I don't want to say you took a break, but you slowed down in music so you could raise raise a couple of kids. And they're now
Taylor Dayne 33:22
not on purpose. I wouldn't I wouldn't slow down I mean, the industry really, I my kids were born 2000 the last day of 2001. As Napster was gaining, everything was changing, and his labels were, you know, I was signed to BMG. Then I was first done one of the first independent, you know, major artists going on an independent level with 98 with naked without your release, which is a gem of a record so you guys should pick that up. It really put everything in my hands and it was daunting, and it was incredible, but it was also like how do you promote a record now I was so used to the machine. Now, we're in Such a different DIY experience. And of course, between 2000 or 98. And where we sit today there was, there was no YouTube, there was no you know, we had MySpace. I think it was just beginning we had Napster and we had this no idea of what file sharing and downloading and free content and everything that's transpired has been really over the last 20 years. And that's when I left our so it's now 2020. So do the math. I left at 9899 put up 9896 pretty much 97 after soul dancing after a greatest hits release they did. And then I did my first DIY, which was naked without you.
Jon Leon Guerrero 34:39
Well, it was a DIY but it had you had powerhouse players on it. You had great songs on it. And then Recently, there was a rerelease that had three extra songs on it right?
Taylor Dayne 34:51
On naked without you Well, just to give you an idea, that album went through a bankruptcy through their own, you know polygram Polly door then closed drawers. So that was who my distribution was through small ape, the label that I did it through then fold the doors. I mean, this was just ongoing and ongoing to where BMG folded doors and then merged in with Sony to that was 2006, maybe 2007. That record is out, you can find it you can download that you can get naked without you. But again, it's not it's not because these labels ended up living and breathing and continuing. So the world when I call it DIY, it's do it yourself, you're in your own distribution is all independent distribution. Most artists doing that, I mean, at least that's where I'm at at this point. After having a major record career, it really kind of was just scary as hell at the time. And it's not what I wanted. It's not what I thought I knew would happen, but it's what transpired. So I had to the cheese was moving. So you bet you best believe I wanted to continue my career. So I didn't take a break. I was forced to To a break, ultimately, because as the music industry was changing so rapidly that's exactly what I got caught in that entire Crossfire of it. But um, here I am, you know, you are a million and a half listeners and Spotify and Spotify a month and continue to grow and will continue to grow and will to continue to use these formats, and social media and these platforms and influencing influencers to continue to do what I'm doing and podcasts to continue to get the message out whatever that message is for me, which is I bring people together and I found that I get my head out of the mix and I just say my voice heals people. Great. Here I am.
Jon Leon Guerrero 36:40
What Pete just posted a link for those of you who are watching. You can listen to naked without you on Spotify, but if you're listening to the podcast on audio only naked without you is available out there. You go out there and buy it. I recently discovered Tim pierce the guitar player and he played on that record. Did you make that record Nashville where'd you make that record?
Taylor Dayne 37:03
I did I actually to saw unstoppable was done in Nashville with Tommy Simms credible want to you know, he did Clapton Clapton you know tears from heaven yeah so I wrote that with him I produced it with him there's a couple of beautiful gems on there there's a Dusty Springfield cover if you don't have to say you love me on there that I love Diane Warren track Tom Kane was on there yes incredible stuff. And then you know of course then we have satisfied and for on fire dreaming, I can go on and go on live without the last single I did with avid on Scott storage. But you know, it's such so much more of a singles world and an apples world at this point which we understand or EP. So the next step I'll be releasing rather soon as these couple of new up and comers, the sky producer zig and his partner Nick. We did project last year and I'll probably release an EP on that like three songs of it. It's pretty exciting
Pete Turner 37:59
who's out there. produce your watch that you want to work with. I mean, you obviously can get anybody you want becaus e where you are now, but
Taylor Dayne 38:04
that's not true. Brilliant gazes, please name somebody.
stargazers Are you kidding me? That's not true. You know, it's just just hustlers is Nile Rodgers who stayed on it and hustled and created his wall of sound and you know, Niles just kept at it, you know, through all his health and through all his, you know, God bless him. I feel the same way Get me in the room with them and let me do some magic get me in the room with these guys and let me do some magic. A Vici I got in the room with because denial and I've never seen bless his soul rest in peace. I never saw somebody so hard working. And so was mesmerizing to watch him with the computer mind you with having Niall playing live. I'm sitting in there with Arthur Baker. I mean, these are names I know they it was just With geta, who was producing it was mind blowing the collaboration. This collaborative pneus is what will save everybody, but it's where I aspire to be on this creative end. It could be john mayer. It could be Bob Weir, it really? The sky's the limit Snoop.
Jon Leon Guerrero 39:21
Yeah. So I hear you're working on a Vegas musical about based on the book and based on your life, is that true?
Taylor Dayne 39:29
Well, it's not hard to do at this point, meaning tell it to my heart. We pretty much have the music. You got the story. We just need the room.
Jon Leon Guerrero 39:38
Yeah, we just need for all of us to be able to get back together in a room
Taylor Dayne 39:42
again. We do need the room love. Yes, I have to do a little refreshing because if a phone call comes in, you know, I got to make this girlfriend's calling me checking in on me. You know,
Jon Leon Guerrero 39:53
one of our longtime listeners is chiming in in the comments Her name is Laura. She's She's a dear friend. And she's certificated listener and she loves me loves you loves you and she keeps saying that but she also would love it if you would just belt out a little piece of love would lead you back.
Taylor Dayne 40:12
Sure. This is the Laura Laura. Yeah. Someday No. Love will lead you back to where you be so sure. I'm sure. One day you don't because one of these day
Jon Leon Guerrero 40:51
Wow.
Laura for asking for that because that really was that was for me. Thank you for that. Before you before you got disconnected the first time this morning, my wife when she left the house, she said, What are you doing today? I said, we're gonna have Taylor Dan on the show. And you know, she gave me my goodbye hug. But right after I said that she gave me a hug. And she hugged me a little extra long. Because you were yapping
Taylor Dayne 41:18
at that. Yeah, that looks delicious. She gave some love.
Jon Leon Guerrero 41:22
Yeah, I mean, this was like pizza. And you were really a part of that. You saying people into love.
Taylor Dayne 41:29
And so although it came from a very heart again, I come from a very passionate, heartfelt, real place. So I think that's the connection. If I try to put words to it, but it's better off coming from your wife. What's your name?
Jon Leon Guerrero 41:43
Christy.
Taylor Dayne 41:44
Hi, Chrissy.
Pete Turner 41:46
And it was her birthday yesterday or your birthday?
Taylor Dayne 41:49
Happy birthday. to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy bad day. Oh, that's some crazy places where I've done little things. Do a lot of cameos. So shout outs. I'm in my car mostly when I do those. So yeah, there you go. Happy Birthday Howdy.
Jon Leon Guerrero 42:07
Right All
Taylor Dayne 42:08
Thanks, guys.
Pete Turner 42:09
Yeah, I've got a question for you. Okay, so what's next? You've written the book you've got the 30 year deluxe edition out. But what's out there one two years away, obviously trying to get back on the road when you're allowed but what's going
Taylor Dayne 42:21
on? I mean, we're all kind of in this this stagnant You know, I'm just trying to get my kids to college here and try not to kick them out the house before that, because it's just you know, this is trying times just keeps. I have twins, you know, they're 18 and I love them madly, but they're frothing at the mouth. They want to be you know, it's difficult. They're not super safe. Yeah, I, I'm a real as you know, my health, wellness and fitness has become a big part of my lifestyle because staying healthy and mentally healthy, spiritually healthy and physically healthy, is really what has kept me motivated and moving. So I inspire women and I inspire most people on my pages to understand that this is because I work hard at it. And so keeping my kids to understand the safety of what now, like you can't come in this house and in fact me or you can't keep going and doing what you're doing, like you're you must think outside of yourself needs and be more present for other people's needs and be conscious of that. And it's difficult talking to a cyclist, you know, psychotic 18 year old who's basically you know,
yeah, it could be on death row. He's so crazy.
Pete Turner 43:35
One of my favorite things is when and recently it was Carrie Underwood, you know, when folks who are famous and notable, but their kids don't Davis don't care. And so they say things like air. My mom, no, she does the laundry. That's her hobby. That's, that's absolutely a thing. Her favorite thing is to do the laundry. So what would you think would
Taylor Dayne 43:58
you ask my kids me I'm constantly cleaning. They're like, you're just so OCD. So this My daughter is in a hawk with me. I'm like, Let's sit down and do Seder I made say two or three of us. Hello. How hard is that? Normally I have 1720 people here, like be part of this family. It's only three of us. I'm like getting enough, you know, brain crazy myself. And they're just like, I'd rather be with my girlfriend. I'm like, well, she better have gloves. You better be quarantined. You better be dead. Oh, it's like, I can't. It's this. There's a lot of loneliness and a lot of challenges going on right now. For all of us. Yeah, for sure. For all of us, they can't have graduation. They're living. They're upset. You know, these are these deeds. They want their senior year to end and yet they can't even move to them. You know? I'm trying. I'm trying as best you are. I'm not I don't have all the solutions. I blow up just like you do. I got stuck. Well next to my bed here. Try to remind myself every day. Keep it together. Keep it together. Keep it together. I sound like Eddie Murphy. There's my like, I am My gratitude gratitude book after book staying connected dealing with you know, clarity cleanse everything conceivable doing my yoga, everything to keep mentally physically my walk my hikes to stay sound. So when we come out of this guys, and hopefully, you know, we all stay healthy during this as we're doing so much social distancing that we can come out of this healthier, stronger and more connected than ever.
Jon Leon Guerrero 45:26
Yeah for sure along those lines what can we coax you into
Taylor Dayne 45:31
Oreo cookies at night basically what I'm saying is because I have a shitload of them in a junk load in one jar. I did five last night that was like, whoo. So
Jon Leon Guerrero 45:42
yeah. Oreo cookies. That's been your secret.
Taylor Dayne 45:45
That's my thing. Well, that's my like, that's my, my, my thing. That's my cheat.
Jon Leon Guerrero 45:51
Yeah. Now that you've been through the book writing process, though, how about capturing something about you've you've looked at your past how Looking at the future for for all of us doing some more motivational stuff and going through the process of writing another book, do you see that in your future?
Taylor Dayne 46:08
Yeah, it would be more health and wellness. And I would do it with the my hormone and my endocrine chronologist specialist, Dr. quiner. I would couple that up with with obviously, more of the memoir of the moment, which would be more of health, wellness, staying positive staying and you know, this is a trying time for most people, and what I've been doing the last 347 years to really optimize my energy and I stay on top of it like a religion. It's a religion for me, and mental, you know, mental health as well. Yeah. That's what I would do. I would focus on a wellness, health and also how to keep and reach your greatest energy capacity.
Jon Leon Guerrero 46:51
Well, if the live comments are any indicator, you have an audience out there who really wants it from you.
Taylor Dayne 46:56
I love you. I mean, I tried to Look, you have to live your you know, you walk your walk. It's not so much the exercise, it's doing the exercise. It's not so much talking to talk, it's walking the walk. So I will share that with you. And that would be the next book, if you will it absolutely at a stage presentation or, you know, a stage show a Vegas show, if you will, for me, I'd love to have a residency there with tell it's my heart. Wow.
Jon Leon Guerrero 47:23
Yes, please sign up.
Taylor Dayne 47:26
You know, that's what we've done with ladies of the 80s and created this, you know, from Jody to Lisa, Lisa, to the point of sisters, Bonnie pointer, you know, that's, that's, you know, producing more events like that. And of course, motivational speaking. I mean, if that's really what the TED talk was, was, I can speak I know what to do. I can do it.
Jon Leon Guerrero 47:46
Okay, well, it sounds like that's what's next. It sounds like that's what the audience wants from you. We can't wait.
Taylor Dayne 47:51
I will never stop touring. Until I have to.
Jon Leon Guerrero 47:55
Yeah, well, don't
Taylor Dayne 47:56
think is number one.
Jon Leon Guerrero 47:59
Don't stop talking. For sure, absolutely. And where do you live? Do you live on the east
Taylor Dayne 48:04
coast to the west coast? No, no, I'm in Los Angeles. Okay, and Miami I placed my I'm in both, but I'm primarily in LA. Since we're in quarantine. Yeah. Wow. It's
Pete Turner 48:13
always not a bad place to be quarantined. Boy, there's a lot of great work with too.
Taylor Dayne 48:18
Yeah, I mean, this is Yeah. Although it's been rather rainy and it but it's okay. We're getting through it. Yeah, I'm here. I'm hunkered down with those with them. Kids with them kids. Them babies. They're not babies anymore. They're grown ass.
Pete Turner 48:32
But yes, they got mouths and legs and attitudes and all that stuff.
Taylor Dayne 48:38
Don't you know? Sounds like you know.
Pete Turner 48:42
Yeah, I mean, like any kind of bad behavior. I get my kids great. She She's awesome. But yeah, I definitely deserve whatever badness I get. I was. I was pretty horrible.
Jon Leon Guerrero 48:56
That's true.
Taylor Dayne 48:58
Well, I wasn't meaning. I was wasn't necessarily not horrible, but I just was like, follow the yellow brick road. I had a mission man I was like out the house on tour. I was already working in clubs 1718 anyway, and I was fortunate I grew up in New York, I was in the bitter end bottom line. I mean, all these places were accessible to me. That's what I was doing. And I was working on with original you know, writers and stuff by 18. So it was very unique times if you will.
Jon Leon Guerrero 49:22
You stay in touch with your Long Island roots musically speaking. Do you have people you made music with back there that you still make music with now?
Taylor Dayne 49:29
Tommy burns went on to he's in those first videos you see probably love and things. And Tommy was with me the first job Tommy went on. He's he's been with Billy Joel now for the last 28 years, I guess. His his MD and everything like that. Other players. I mean, God bless, Rick Wait, we lost some of our people along the way which can credit still doing what he's doing, Richie. Yeah. Richie Kannada who runs a studio God Willing is still alive. His partner clay passed. You know, some of them have passed and God bless them.Bobby Conway did some of the Greatest Guitar work on my first records? The great singer.Oh goodness, Billy t Scott, who did all my arrangements with me who when I was just in a just they taught me all those moves him and Jamila background singers Cedric, they taught me all that stuff for those sessions. He went on to work with Mariah and did all Mariah sessions with her ability scout. We miss you. So we've lost a lot of great ones, too.
Pete Turner 50:31
Yeah. Yeah. Well, keep doing what you're doing. And judging by all the comments and quotes, everybody's already ready to buy airline tickets to go to Vegas to watch your residency. Just keep doing
Taylor Dayne 50:43
Stay tuned. Obviously a lot of stuff has been postponed. Yeah. For the march shows my March and April and May shows are now postponed and we will look we're fighting to we're fighting. We're all hunkering down to see hopefully June we can reconvene and all those dates will be re posted and we will let you know when they have been postponed to people that have tickets for the Arizona shows and other things that have come up and obviously the shows that we just canceled here for Vegas in March and it's been trying it's been difficult many artists are suffering and and I don't want to be one of them at this point. So I'm looking forward to June is when I think we can get reconvene and get our head get ourselves out there and doing what we need to do. Yeah,
Pete Turner 51:28
and the best place to stay updated is that you're on your website
Taylor Dayne 51:31
Absolutely. Even though Taylor Dean calm certainly go to my Facebook page. You know, I'm very active on my Facebook page. I'm very active on my Instagram the real Taylor Dayne, it da y and E for anybody that's still holding on to that da any that was a stripper in the day that was a porn star. I am not Taylor Dayne. I'm not that stripper. I am not that porn star. We are da y like the day, the day of the Dane and yes, they're all verified, you can find just posted very public and very active on all those things. counts my website, you can find all the merchandise and all the concerts that have been postponed. And we're trying to keep it as up to date as we can while we get information like you all do, right?
Pete Turner 52:11
Yeah, and let us know. We're glad to push things out. and everything like that will be in the show notes. If you're listening and you're not sure, just break it down, show calm, you'll see Taylor's name on there or go to the any of the web pages where we have our presence, you'll be able to find our information, or just simply go to Taylor dayne.com. And you guys will do it. And make sure you guys like and comment and review the book when you buy it.
Unknown Speaker 52:32
That's right, yeah. buy the
Taylor Dayne 52:34
book. Let's check out that 30 year edition. That's the 30 year anniversary because it has a lot of cool new remixes that you might like, and some of the news, some some new stuff that I put on there, which were born just saying and people have been asking me because that was that was the song I wrote and did for the TED Talk. So it's on there. It's quite beautiful.
Pete Turner 52:52
Yeah, keep writing songs. You're great at it. Thank you so much. As far as I'm concerned. I'm good on questions. JOHN, do you have anything else?
Jon Leon Guerrero 52:59
I do? Just want to say I you know I've always been a big fan of yours and I love you even more now than I did an hour ago. Yes.
Taylor Dayne 53:08
Beautiful. What a beautiful talk today. Thank you so much. And thank you all my fans. Thank you for becoming a fan. Thank you for listening.Keep going guys
Jon Leon Guerrero 53:20
doing we want to help promote, so just let us know.
Taylor Dayne 53:22
Well Joanne will is in touch with you. So we got this so she's my she's my angel, you know that Joanne makes so we got that.
Jon Leon Guerrero 53:30
Terrific. Taylor, Dane, everybody. We love you.
Taylor Dayne 53:33
Love you guys. Thank you so so much guys. Have a great rest of your day.
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Pete Turner 2:01
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Taylor Dayne 2:05
Hi, this is Taylor Dayne and you are listening to the break it down show.
Jon Leon Guerrero 2:12
Those are words we've been waiting to hear. And I'm excited that you're with us. Taylor Dayne emerged in 1987, which is a pivotal year for me and myself because it was the year that we both graduated from high school. So you can imagine what in a workplace in our hearts you you occupied, because just as you were taking the world by storm, we were entering adulthood and going to the clubs where you'd be played, and we still grew up in that age where you call the DJ, and you got the DJ to play the songs that you wanted, which in the bay area where we grew up, where guys like sway and Theo Misa hora and Rick Chase, and we were all a part of that. emergence. So we have been with you your entire career means a lot that you'd be on our show. Thank you.
Taylor Dayne 3:08
And Joan and Jones happy to all right. You know, we got to represent people we love all these years too. So I appreciate that, guys, thank you so much for so many years of support. And, and I understand I mean, I was in the clubs in New York, you were in the Bay Area. And those DJs last night a DJ saved my life. They saved my life. Yeah. You know, those clubs, you know?
What was the drinking age when you were graduated high school?
Jon Leon Guerrero 3:35
It was 21 on the west coast. The East Coast. We were given a good ride. Yeah. Wow. For when I'm from Guam originally, and I went back to Guam right after I graduated where the drinking age was 18. So we went crazy back there.
Taylor Dayne 3:51
Well, we just had a life. Yeah. Yeah, you
Jon Leon Guerrero 3:55
have a book out now and you're going on
Taylor Dayne 3:59
all the time. Have a copy of it here. I'll let you say, well, the ad that my book is this is all celebrating 30 year. It's how I lost my shit conquered my fear and found my voice literally. Yeah, I put up I put up a TED, my TED talk that kind of was the impetus for this book. I did Ted Ted, in 2016. And it really was that was a six month process of really writing, rewriting. And then it really led me and my book mentor and my book guru, Linda cybersyn, who has an incredible podcast as well. She's the one that said you need to do a TED talk, because doing a book is gonna take you two years. So the TED Talk, no, and then I was like, This TED Talk is almost as you know, in depth and is crazy. But really, it really helped me set up for my 30 year anniversary and the book is out and it's, I'm real proud of it and it's a now 30 years, 30 years this week, lovely tobacco number one, I'm like getting all these, you know, people are obviously home and a lot of us are doing what we're doing. You know, just Commit you know connecting with each other through zoom social media any which way we can so it's been really kind of nice to see all these I'm really present I'm not on the road I'm not traveling I'm really president seeing all this and it's beautiful.
Pete Turner 5:14
Yeah, let me just say we get a lot of really very notable people on the show all the time we had representative Dan Crenshaw who just dropped the book on last week but when I put out that we were gonna have you on the show it hasn't stopped people listen, you must Yeah, they love you. They
Taylor Dayne 5:31
must know this
Pete Turner 5:34
Hey Taylor, people love you. They couldn't say enough nice things I'm kind of run through them here on the bottom of the screen. But just people just are just ecstatic that that you were coming on and celebrating it so good.
Taylor Dayne 5:49
Guys, you guys need to like play if you record you know, in a blessing for him a little bit. I'm touched. I'm I'm ever so moved. And and I love you guys. Thank you. Don't worry,
Jon Leon Guerrero 6:02
we got a lot of questions to ask you about all kinds of stuff we got catching up to do. Um, I really want to start all the way back there because a lot of people know you know your songs and and your emergence on the radio, especially here on the west coast, but you were also the opening act on Michael Jackson's bad tour.
Taylor Dayne 6:20
Well, that's kind of like graduating high school. Yes, I graduated high school. I went right into the clubs. I was a, you know, an emerging artist and my first tour, obviously, the single came out in 87. So imagine six months later, it broke it, but here it came out in 87. In Europe, that's what a lot of people don't know in the book will kind of sets up the entire story. So it was released in Europe first, and it blew up the clubs, right. It started is in the clubs, obviously. And then, you know, calls to stations which were calling radio stations. That's really what it was. So DJs had such an impact on that that grassroots spread for Taylor Dang, because they didn't even have a photo of me on the phone. Single which was tailored to my heart, and it was a 12 inch. Then we got into what was called cassette singles. Yet no album that was signed to Arizona for a single single option album. There was no album in the works, other than I was a demo singer and I was obviously hustling and working with Rick wake at that point. He was my producing partner. We just delivered a single I went to a private promoter because we'd already been doing a couple of singles. And that was with Rick, wait, we funded it, we put it out, and then we got to buy it with rst records.
Jon Leon Guerrero 7:30
You made that thing for 6000 bucks. No doubt.
Taylor Dayne 7:33
Right. And then it got sold for $18,000. It's this song, the one you hear? Yeah. It's astounding. It's astonishing because what it did was it took six months. It blew up in Europe. Obviously I won. And that's the tour I ended up doing with Michael leading back to Michael Jackson and meeting Prince and everybody It was during that year, those two years where I primarily was in Europe and then it broke in the United States in 1988. Then it started getting Grammy the Grammy nominations because you have to be in a certain window. And I didn't even show up for the Grammys for nominations till 89. For the same album, well, because we had five top, you know, top 10 hits on that it just kept going. It was amazing. And there was no album so it took me six months to make a record, or the six, we call it the six week record, because at that point, Aristo never made that mistake again, with you know, a sub base Milli Vanilli any of the acts they had, they had at least a couple of songs in the can, they will lose in you know, you can't sell singles that much, you know, you gotta sell records.
Jon Leon Guerrero 8:38
And they learn that from you.
Taylor Dayne 8:41
I definitely was the petri dish and testing for so many things, you know, when they say they just threw the record out there. They didn't want my picture on I think the first single because obviously, my voice was very, very provocative and I guess it had a you know, there was no demo necessarily pour it and they just wanted to see where it fell. And it hit hard. And it just started going number one throughout Europe. And I spent the first six, seven months in Europe doing Montreux meeting prints doing going on tour them with Michael for the bad tour, and it continued from there and then it swelled and, and it kept moving. And it was incredible.
Pete Turner 9:18
What do you attribute that breakout to? I mean, you've got it your own label is hedging. And then kaboom. Taylor shows up.
Taylor Dayne 9:28
Well, you don't look at it that way. I was like, Oh my God, we got signed. I was doing singles before that. But it was under Leslie Wonder Man or Leslie. I mean, if you guys know my history, like I was in the clubs, paradise garage, Zanzibar I was hustling. So there's no mistake. We just knew we needed to get more of a crossover record and put a more of a crossover record. Rick and I were a team. I mean, we came in we signed as blue productions. That was us. We signed. We signed a single Oh, that was it. We already had prove you love kind of in the works. It was the same writers. That's the worst. Look up. I mean, don't rush me, I'd already done background vocals and sang sang the demos for you know, that was the third single Clive brought in I'll always love you. But that was when we were really and this was on the makings of making a record. It was astonishing. If you can see on that first album, I've upon the journeys and because I was working in a Russian nightclub before that, and one of the writers I really love Joe sharone. I mean, I have story after story for every song. It's just amazing how it ended up on an iconic album like that ultimate.
Jon Leon Guerrero 10:26
Yeah, an iconic album on an iconic label that's known for powerful female singers. So well, that's
Taylor Dayne 10:33
the interesting thing. You know, your your intention. So that was I grew up in New York. So during that time, in that mid 80s, if you guys remember how all of a sudden we had this incredible radius station called kiss FM, right? Yeah, came out. And it started playing shard a right it started playing Whitney Houston, then you started hearing all of a sudden you started hearing. Aretha Franklin again you started hearing to Natalie Cole is On the blue man who pink Cadillac, so these women, these voices and then of course then we have Whitney Houston, I go, whoever the hell is doing this and whoever gets these women Now not all these artists, but he certainly took Aretha Franklin from her 70s and broke her back again in the 80s. Natalie Cole, you know, I'm not saying Clive, I didn't do with that. But what I'm saying is that these voices were being honored and then of course, Whitney coming out a big voice a big challenge, and a hit record. I was like, I want to be whatever that whoever gets those voices will get me. Yeah. And it happened to get signed to Arizona. Yes.
Jon Leon Guerrero 11:38
And so how with Arizona How did it happen? That you landed there.
Taylor Dayne 11:44
It was really through the single we were promoting. I brought it to a promoter we have been working with during the time for others for a couple of other singles I had out if you guys want to get into the real, you know be cuts you can find one of my singles called Tell me can you love me? Can you really love me? I'm the one you Well, you're breaking, you know, play in those clubs. And those are the two singles we had. And then Rick was very confident and I was running. I was driving along the West Side Highway and I saw a kid I went to high school with, and he was working at Warner Chappell Music Publishing, and I got a tape. And one of the songs on there was telling to my heart, I said to Rick, Rick said, We need a crossover record, we need a record that really is going to get you know if we're really going to do this. And one of the singles on one of the songs on there was tell it to my heart. And he goes, that's the one we should we should get that money from your dad borrow it. And my you know, we were playing. I was out there hustling. So that's kind of how it happened. So we went into one of the one of the private like I said, the we went to a to promoter, and he's the one that had some a&r. It was Andy Fermin ended up hearing it from Arizona records and brought it into Arizona and they signed it as a single. That's really what happened when we were releasing it ourselves. I mean, I knew how to get on the mix shows we know how to get into the dance schools. We were hiring somebody just as an independent promoter to put it out there in the polls and do our own buzz on it.
Pete Turner 13:07
So you had that part of the business figured out you just needed to get that next you need to cross genre or whatever. And you're right. You had great timing because you also didn't say the words. Cyndi Lauper, Madonna, Tina Turner, the 80s was when the ladies broke out the go Go's, it was totally possible for women to have a real career. And then you also had Chaka Khan was big then Lisa, Lisa, and the culture and all these female acts. It's like you all got together and said, Let's take over the music industry by storm right now in the mid 80s.
Taylor Dayne 13:40
It's quite amazing. I mean, when you knew Janet Jackson, you know, listen, Shaka was definitely an icon, a living legend, but you know, her career started in the 70s. For sure. Yeah, the 80s was Belinda myself, Debbie Gibson, if you will on that, Tiffany. Those girls broke but Cindy broke in. But even earlier, you know, Cindy was part of that, you know, boy, George, that whole that whole visual context and Madonna, that early 80s I came into 8788, like I said, but yeah, it was just, you know, we're all in high school watching this and this phenomenon. And that was the combination of MTV and of course, and giving these women a chance to be these visual, iconic images, you know, and of course, that first image you saw of me. Whoo, big hair, big lips, red lips and all that. It's not a hairspray.It holds an impression, I guess, guys.
Jon Leon Guerrero 14:38
Well, I have a question. But before I ask it, I want to say that you sort of batted cleanup in that era because all of those ladies came out and had great records. But you You came through with the most. I mean, comparable to Shaka, you came through with the most powerful voice and it was almost like the ad Were prepping for some powerhouse to show up in the late 80s. And really same from from
Taylor Dayne 15:07
had I had Whitney Houston I had a Rita I had a I had a label that understood how to you know, Clive is the song right so understood what a hit song was, and understood the you could have a great voice, but you still the song is the song, The song is the weight and tell it to my heart. It was that greatest song and obviously, the rest is history. But having now 19 Top 10 hits, right and then of course then Mariah broke in 1990. And you saw more and more of that. But then you saw a real retreat on that as grunge and more of the rock and roll took place in the 90s and as we started getting into our you know, rock and roll again and simplifying them coming down off that pop genre, but the 80s had a lot of that and it was slick and it was Rick and we were doing records but even when you saw what Aerosmith was doing but Janie's Got a Gun and All this stuff that was coming back pump it was pretty unbelievable. Yeah.
Jon Leon Guerrero 16:04
Well when it redefined their career for sure. And when I began Eagle came out it didn't have your picture on it. You was your image your image and, and yours that you brought to the label or did the label help you develop your look?
Taylor Dayne 16:19
That's I I'm going to tell you this quite frankly we went into a I went into a warehouse, they had a single, it was blowing up all over and it just said Taylor Dayne and that kind of graffiti. Tell it to my heart. If you saw that graffiti cover, it's a classic, you know, 12 inch I went into a warehouse I went into a studio, I went into an apartment, we were doing a shoot for the first look. I brought it all stuff. I was hanging out in clubs. And you know, like I said, this was late 80s or what I was doing and where I was hanging was St. Mark's. I was in private eyes. I was in Danceteria I was in going to Limelight just around that time but not as much I was in the clubs where music was playing dance which was paradise garage because I was working in a Russian nightclub trying to feed myself you know? Yeah, I was out I was 18 This is 19 now I'm 21 the the single art came from just being in a couple of incredible makeup artists hair stylist, those were all extensions and crimps and and I saw myself and I saw the clothes that I was wearing on St. Mark's and stuff from love, spit love as you know these big stores from second and eighth and I put it on I was like leather meets pleather meets, you know, it was very indicative and yet, we styled it and we played with the hair and the images are what you say it was really just playing more of 80s looked at I mean, if you saw some of my earlier photos, I was it was new way of meats. I guess more of a luxury or or more Dominick dominatrix and powerful image of what a woman could look like and Who was she. I look timeless, I look ageless. I know it was You know, I got many, many a call once that video released and once the image was backed to the song It made all sense to everybody.
Pete Turner 18:07
How would you classify you're obviously you, you do whatever the hell you want with your voice because it's, it's incredible. But what would you say is your whole genre where you're like, I can sing this kind of song all day all night? Like, what's your home genre?
Taylor Dayne 18:23
If you asked me that, I would have said, I'm a rock and I'm a rock singer. I never thought of pop, you know, like, I had to learn just like you had to learn that you know, what's popular, what to label yourself is almost as dangerous as as, as the idea of of getting stuck in a genre, you know, being cast in a genre of the music you do. I have had music that I'm blessed to say it's been on every chart. r&b, not hip hop, r&b. I was nominated for Best Female r&b vocalist I mean for Grammys, you know, best r&b single that was love, always love you pop, Adult Contemporary Dance, I've had that voice and that music that has crossed over and that was kind of a blessing but it was also very difficult because as even we would say at the labels like you know, I can sing the phone book but you know, how do we use a hit record it's a record that translates and things I didn't even realize like I'll always love you how it would translate I wasn't signed up for that song I was signed up for Don't rush me I was signed up for shelter I was signed up those are the things I understood a ballad. It took me a while to understand the impact of what a level leads you back. I mean, when I first heard level you back, I was way into understanding. I'm a pop vocalist, I'm a but if you asked me my genre with leading with r&b you know I'm an r&b vocalist.
Jon Leon Guerrero 19:53
I second that motion. Hey, I'm looking at the comments and Ramona Perry ployment just said, I named my Daughter Taylor. That's pretty neat comment, you sing a lot of songs about love. If you were go through everybody can go look up your your discography and there's a lot of song titles in there about love, but you've obviously
Taylor Dayne 20:15
predominantly every song I've, you know, at least the singles. Yeah,
Jon Leon Guerrero 20:19
yeah. Well, what what else do you want to explore now at this juncture of your career because you've led a full life and you've you're raising teenagers and you, you've done a lot of things. Um,
Taylor Dayne 20:34
I think what we're trying to explore right now is music that motivates write music that I think it's something upbeat, something that connects you always want to connect to the heart, right? So to me, it's always been about that my truthfulness and how I sing is the authenticity of the authentic. It my my integrity is in the authenticity, authenticity of what you hear. So The strength and the power behind my voice. I've had to rope it in at times. And I think, right now when you hear Drake's new slot, I mean, there's music that's coming out. And if I was in the studio working with somebody right now, or as we were, are changing and trading tracks right now, as opposed to doing honestly remotely. That feels right, it feels like we need this. This hub, we all need this hug and come together and a reason to go out on a dance movie foot, like for all of us to be as one and that's the beauty of music. It universally drives and it resonates and it holds. That's why I sing about love and heart because I guess it's very believable coming from a person like me. Who's very driven that way. My heart is very connected. Each song is a baby for me, if you will, a birth.
Pete Turner 21:48
Wow. Okay. I mean that it has to be that way, right? I mean, we were talking john and i with a singer yesterday, Janine Stang and she sings the national anthem like that's her main thing. But we were talking about how one of the artists we'd had on we think it was Stewart Copeland, I can't remember for sure. But he talked about you don't change the song once you've done it right, because you've already done the work. The audience wants that thing that you've already given them. Yeah. But as you get older Are you looking at like, I can change this with my new perspective as being a mom and having been around for a little while?
Taylor Dayne 22:20
Well, of course, that's the artists job, but I think we're talking about something like yeah, I can do an acoustic version of TELUS tomorrow. I can I can put it up any which way. I mean, I've been singing live cons. I've been doing many concerts from home and you get that impression. You know, you can get the form that and some of them I'm just listening back and going, Oh, my God, I haven't even traveled and listen to this and so long. I have to say when it comes to reinventing the wheel, you don't really need to reinvent the wheel. If the wheels running and it's working. I understand that what what really changes is every night your audience so your audience It's like going to see a play that's been on Broadway for 10 years. Do you really want to see? Funny Girl change the lyric the intention of it? Do you want to see? I mean, what is the what you know? What am I? Or Brent? Would you want to see the music change? Would you want that to be changed? I mean, I understand interpretation, but when what fans really want to do is connect with a moment in time right? And I understand where it gets stale for some artists and I can understand that and even for myself, I have changed arrangements of songs. But the message is clear the song is is is key. And that's what they want to hear in the lyric and I always tend to stay very truthful to that but my arrangements change if you listen to my arrangements Apollo is love you if you listen to my arrangements, of love lead you back and goes on and shelter and and quite frankly, your audience changes every night so does the emoji and you have to understand that as an artist and I've learned that
Pete Turner 24:02
Well, let's talk about the book for a minute.
Jon Leon Guerrero 24:06
I'd like to know who the book was for when you started writing it. And I'm sure that now it's for a lot of different people. It's for the generation of parents looking at the way they parented. It's for kids who are looking for their own voice. It's for that probably person in our generation who's still trying to figure it out. When you started the book, who was it for?
Taylor Dayne 24:31
It was for me.
Jon Leon Guerrero 24:32
Okay.
Taylor Dayne 24:34
Okay, me to get out. And to I hunkered down. I went to a writing retreat. I met with Linda Siva Stan, as I said, she became my book, Mama, my mentor. She didn't become my ghostwriter. And then it went into this journey of how, really how many times I've suppressed so many moments or not even deliberately, you know, just I'm a tour. I'm going out. Getting Things Done. And so many so much of this travel, I've not even, I never even took in, you don't really have the time or the capacity to take it in. It's so pushed forward. So this was this beautiful moment to reflect on the 30 years that I've put into this work and the, the joys, the tears, the, the desires, the reason why, why I feel the purpose now why I feel ever more present in my career than I did even if you if I was the number one position, just going through the rabbit, you know, on the hamster wheel not even knowing what I was doing this for anymore being led down doors that didn't even almost feel authentic at times. But I have to say it was for me. And then I realized it was for my parents and now I really you know, and it just kept it grows from there. My brothers, my, my fans, the women in my life, the men in my life and I've said that, you know And of course, the fans that now read it or get exposed to it and
Jon Leon Guerrero 26:06
as a book never ends, right? It's got long legs, as they say,
Pete Turner 26:10
Yeah, well, and you've lived such an impossible life. And had Thanks. Yeah, I mean, look, anytime these kind of things happen, you know, there's 10,000 other tailors out there who had something happen in their life, whether they met a guy or they took a job, or they didn't get that gig or whatever it was, and they didn't have it. And then you have all of the couples that you saying into love, you know, when they're at that dance, and they, you know, you became their song. These things are only captured in a book and through a lifetime of experiences that you put on the page. It's a remarkable thing. So yeah, it's a remarkable it's a remarkable life. Taylor. I got an extra long hug this morning with my wife Morgan house. Just she said, What are you doing today? I said, we're gonna we got we're bringing Taylor on the show. She embraced me and held on for a little a little longer. Hey, this is Pete Turner from lions rock productions. We create podcasts around here. And if you your brand or your company want to figure out how to do a podcast, just talk to me. I'll give you the advice on the right gear, the best plan and show you how to take a podcast that makes sense for you. That's sustainable. That's scalable and fun. Hit me up at Pete at breakdown show calm. Let me help. I want to hear about it. Okay, yeah,
okay.
Taylor Dayne 27:28
Yay.
Pete Turner 27:30
Whoa, let us back to Taylor. Hey, if you're gonna buy Taylor Dean's book, you should go to Amazon click on the link that always helps us and definitely helps tailor and then here's the thing. It's like, there it is the book right there. Here's the thing about when you buy the book, you have to leave a rating and review that is what bumps the book on the ratings. If you do that, you're not only of course, Taylor's gonna get paid but introduces other people to the book. So read it and review it. It's enormously helpful.
Jon Leon Guerrero 27:57
Here's the other thing when you look for it on Amazon You have to search for it under books because of course when you type in tell it to my heart. It takes me right to this thing which if you don't already own it, you should just buy it anyway. But search for it and
Taylor Dayne 28:11
get it off my you'll see guys even if you go to my Facebook you'll see on the banner it's the 30 year deluxe edition anniversary and I have new remixes. I even had fun with like some people in the jazz world, some cool producers that did remixes of it and it's my versions and it really helps me helps. Helps artists. It's the beautiful new one that came out in 2018 2019 the 30 year deluxe edition anniversary for tell it to my heart and it has every song and it has born to sing now the newest, newest, newest stuff I've released over the last few years.
Jon Leon Guerrero 28:49
Okay, yes do that. We are of the 12 inch generation. We like remixes like
Taylor Dayne 28:55
you know you're on there
Jon Leon Guerrero 28:57
about the single there were always like four versions of the song on there. There was a I saw you live at a it had to be in the probably mid 90s is probably about 93 or 94. And it was a daytime show at a racetrack in Berkeley called Golden Gate fields. And of course,
Taylor Dayne 29:22
with that, we are on a double bill with Joan Jett and myself or it was just me.
Jon Leon Guerrero 29:28
Oh, wow. I don't remember that. No, I think it was new. Okay.
Taylor Dayne 29:32
It was just fine. I mean, I played a few racetracks I have to be honest.
Jon Leon Guerrero 29:36
Yeah. And it was like a Sunday show and like, rock in the afternoon. And it was
Taylor Dayne 29:43
Yeah, because they have everybody coming into the racetrack and what we they did a concert series Normally, I mean, I used to do those myself but Belmont Park. I used to go to those those great concerts, and then the races would start it was just kind of amazing. Or they do it right after the races. They had a kind of captured audience and then they would go And then perform and you know, so it's pretty amazing so yeah, I understand so how was your
Jon Leon Guerrero 30:04
experience epic? Well, it was a generational shift because it was after the races so the races happened like in the in the daytime and then you came on afterwards all the old people left and a whole different new crowd came to them
and it was great we had a fantastic time all them old gamblers left I guess
Taylor Dayne 30:28
that's pretty awesome. That's great. Well that's what the probably the track wanted to get some new degenerates in there and gamblers.
Jon Leon Guerrero 30:37
No businesses business.
Taylor Dayne 30:39
That's right. Yeah. Well, thankfully it didn't take for me. I haven't been back to the racetrack since he never ran to try to get there. Yeah, sadly, obviously, it's been pushed, but we're still there. Still. It's postponed till September. But let me tell you something. I've hit that wall. Hard to get that better. Well
Jon Leon Guerrero 31:01
Spoken like a true voice races love the races no matter
Pete Turner 31:08
what. So yesterday, we had no mistake talking about singing the national anthem at a donkey basketball game. What's your what's your oddest place? you've performed that?
Taylor Dayne 31:23
Oh, come on guys. Shit I performed in my office two days ago.
Jon Leon Guerrero 31:28
Ah,
Taylor Dayne 31:30
I performed in my bathroom. You mean like venue wise? I mean, I first broke honey, let me explain to you when I first broke. The single was just entity right? I'd show up in a club in Germany and it was 1000 people that had crimped hair and, or to wanna try doing a show and you can't even hear yourself. I'm like, I need to hear the music, the monitors and it was just mind blowing. Yeah, a club in Tijuana probably had asked Relax and never earlier so yeah, been those always private shows are hysterical whether you're doing a bar mitzvah or a wedding and stuff, but I find it I mean, my my take on it all now for the last 15 years is so different than when I was like, chart chart chart my 20s and 30s is all dedicated to chart chart chart success numbers, numbers, numbers now, I have such a just a different piece. And it's just, you know, people are so happy when I sang a wedding. I've sang a, you know, obviously, some wedding song for many, many people, I'll always love you, or a birthday or whatever, and I just get out there and I'm just hugging you know, and just just with them, and I don't think those are odd, but I've got to think the sex club and to Ana was pretty good.
Pete Turner 32:46
That's what I was hoping for. Right?
Unknown Speaker 32:49
dx in that.
Unknown Speaker 32:52
Yes.
Unknown Speaker 32:54
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 32:56
You know,
Taylor Dayne 32:58
in Europe, let me tell you, I I've been known to listen, I haven't drank, too. And I've certainly gotten behind a piano bar too. And I don't think they're the weirdest places. It's just the most fun.
Jon Leon Guerrero 33:10
Well, it seems like you've done this on your own terms. And you seem to, I don't want to say you took a break, but you slowed down in music so you could raise raise a couple of kids. And they're now
Taylor Dayne 33:22
not on purpose. I wouldn't I wouldn't slow down I mean, the industry really, I my kids were born 2000 the last day of 2001. As Napster was gaining, everything was changing, and his labels were, you know, I was signed to BMG. Then I was first done one of the first independent, you know, major artists going on an independent level with 98 with naked without your release, which is a gem of a record so you guys should pick that up. It really put everything in my hands and it was daunting, and it was incredible, but it was also like how do you promote a record now I was so used to the machine. Now, we're in Such a different DIY experience. And of course, between 2000 or 98. And where we sit today there was, there was no YouTube, there was no you know, we had MySpace. I think it was just beginning we had Napster and we had this no idea of what file sharing and downloading and free content and everything that's transpired has been really over the last 20 years. And that's when I left our so it's now 2020. So do the math. I left at 9899 put up 9896 pretty much 97 after soul dancing after a greatest hits release they did. And then I did my first DIY, which was naked without you.
Jon Leon Guerrero 34:39
Well, it was a DIY but it had you had powerhouse players on it. You had great songs on it. And then Recently, there was a rerelease that had three extra songs on it right?
Taylor Dayne 34:51
On naked without you Well, just to give you an idea, that album went through a bankruptcy through their own, you know polygram Polly door then closed drawers. So that was who my distribution was through small ape, the label that I did it through then fold the doors. I mean, this was just ongoing and ongoing to where BMG folded doors and then merged in with Sony to that was 2006, maybe 2007. That record is out, you can find it you can download that you can get naked without you. But again, it's not it's not because these labels ended up living and breathing and continuing. So the world when I call it DIY, it's do it yourself, you're in your own distribution is all independent distribution. Most artists doing that, I mean, at least that's where I'm at at this point. After having a major record career, it really kind of was just scary as hell at the time. And it's not what I wanted. It's not what I thought I knew would happen, but it's what transpired. So I had to the cheese was moving. So you bet you best believe I wanted to continue my career. So I didn't take a break. I was forced to To a break, ultimately, because as the music industry was changing so rapidly that's exactly what I got caught in that entire Crossfire of it. But um, here I am, you know, you are a million and a half listeners and Spotify and Spotify a month and continue to grow and will continue to grow and will to continue to use these formats, and social media and these platforms and influencing influencers to continue to do what I'm doing and podcasts to continue to get the message out whatever that message is for me, which is I bring people together and I found that I get my head out of the mix and I just say my voice heals people. Great. Here I am.
Jon Leon Guerrero 36:40
What Pete just posted a link for those of you who are watching. You can listen to naked without you on Spotify, but if you're listening to the podcast on audio only naked without you is available out there. You go out there and buy it. I recently discovered Tim pierce the guitar player and he played on that record. Did you make that record Nashville where'd you make that record?
Taylor Dayne 37:03
I did I actually to saw unstoppable was done in Nashville with Tommy Simms credible want to you know, he did Clapton Clapton you know tears from heaven yeah so I wrote that with him I produced it with him there's a couple of beautiful gems on there there's a Dusty Springfield cover if you don't have to say you love me on there that I love Diane Warren track Tom Kane was on there yes incredible stuff. And then you know of course then we have satisfied and for on fire dreaming, I can go on and go on live without the last single I did with avid on Scott storage. But you know, it's such so much more of a singles world and an apples world at this point which we understand or EP. So the next step I'll be releasing rather soon as these couple of new up and comers, the sky producer zig and his partner Nick. We did project last year and I'll probably release an EP on that like three songs of it. It's pretty exciting
Pete Turner 37:59
who's out there. produce your watch that you want to work with. I mean, you obviously can get anybody you want becaus e where you are now, but
Taylor Dayne 38:04
that's not true. Brilliant gazes, please name somebody.
stargazers Are you kidding me? That's not true. You know, it's just just hustlers is Nile Rodgers who stayed on it and hustled and created his wall of sound and you know, Niles just kept at it, you know, through all his health and through all his, you know, God bless him. I feel the same way Get me in the room with them and let me do some magic get me in the room with these guys and let me do some magic. A Vici I got in the room with because denial and I've never seen bless his soul rest in peace. I never saw somebody so hard working. And so was mesmerizing to watch him with the computer mind you with having Niall playing live. I'm sitting in there with Arthur Baker. I mean, these are names I know they it was just With geta, who was producing it was mind blowing the collaboration. This collaborative pneus is what will save everybody, but it's where I aspire to be on this creative end. It could be john mayer. It could be Bob Weir, it really? The sky's the limit Snoop.
Jon Leon Guerrero 39:21
Yeah. So I hear you're working on a Vegas musical about based on the book and based on your life, is that true?
Taylor Dayne 39:29
Well, it's not hard to do at this point, meaning tell it to my heart. We pretty much have the music. You got the story. We just need the room.
Jon Leon Guerrero 39:38
Yeah, we just need for all of us to be able to get back together in a room
Taylor Dayne 39:42
again. We do need the room love. Yes, I have to do a little refreshing because if a phone call comes in, you know, I got to make this girlfriend's calling me checking in on me. You know,
Jon Leon Guerrero 39:53
one of our longtime listeners is chiming in in the comments Her name is Laura. She's She's a dear friend. And she's certificated listener and she loves me loves you loves you and she keeps saying that but she also would love it if you would just belt out a little piece of love would lead you back.
Taylor Dayne 40:12
Sure. This is the Laura Laura. Yeah. Someday No. Love will lead you back to where you be so sure. I'm sure. One day you don't because one of these day
Jon Leon Guerrero 40:51
Wow.
Laura for asking for that because that really was that was for me. Thank you for that. Before you before you got disconnected the first time this morning, my wife when she left the house, she said, What are you doing today? I said, we're gonna have Taylor Dan on the show. And you know, she gave me my goodbye hug. But right after I said that she gave me a hug. And she hugged me a little extra long. Because you were yapping
Taylor Dayne 41:18
at that. Yeah, that looks delicious. She gave some love.
Jon Leon Guerrero 41:22
Yeah, I mean, this was like pizza. And you were really a part of that. You saying people into love.
Taylor Dayne 41:29
And so although it came from a very heart again, I come from a very passionate, heartfelt, real place. So I think that's the connection. If I try to put words to it, but it's better off coming from your wife. What's your name?
Jon Leon Guerrero 41:43
Christy.
Taylor Dayne 41:44
Hi, Chrissy.
Pete Turner 41:46
And it was her birthday yesterday or your birthday?
Taylor Dayne 41:49
Happy birthday. to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy bad day. Oh, that's some crazy places where I've done little things. Do a lot of cameos. So shout outs. I'm in my car mostly when I do those. So yeah, there you go. Happy Birthday Howdy.
Jon Leon Guerrero 42:07
Right All
Taylor Dayne 42:08
Thanks, guys.
Pete Turner 42:09
Yeah, I've got a question for you. Okay, so what's next? You've written the book you've got the 30 year deluxe edition out. But what's out there one two years away, obviously trying to get back on the road when you're allowed but what's going
Taylor Dayne 42:21
on? I mean, we're all kind of in this this stagnant You know, I'm just trying to get my kids to college here and try not to kick them out the house before that, because it's just you know, this is trying times just keeps. I have twins, you know, they're 18 and I love them madly, but they're frothing at the mouth. They want to be you know, it's difficult. They're not super safe. Yeah, I, I'm a real as you know, my health, wellness and fitness has become a big part of my lifestyle because staying healthy and mentally healthy, spiritually healthy and physically healthy, is really what has kept me motivated and moving. So I inspire women and I inspire most people on my pages to understand that this is because I work hard at it. And so keeping my kids to understand the safety of what now, like you can't come in this house and in fact me or you can't keep going and doing what you're doing, like you're you must think outside of yourself needs and be more present for other people's needs and be conscious of that. And it's difficult talking to a cyclist, you know, psychotic 18 year old who's basically you know,
yeah, it could be on death row. He's so crazy.
Pete Turner 43:35
One of my favorite things is when and recently it was Carrie Underwood, you know, when folks who are famous and notable, but their kids don't Davis don't care. And so they say things like air. My mom, no, she does the laundry. That's her hobby. That's, that's absolutely a thing. Her favorite thing is to do the laundry. So what would you think would
Taylor Dayne 43:58
you ask my kids me I'm constantly cleaning. They're like, you're just so OCD. So this My daughter is in a hawk with me. I'm like, Let's sit down and do Seder I made say two or three of us. Hello. How hard is that? Normally I have 1720 people here, like be part of this family. It's only three of us. I'm like getting enough, you know, brain crazy myself. And they're just like, I'd rather be with my girlfriend. I'm like, well, she better have gloves. You better be quarantined. You better be dead. Oh, it's like, I can't. It's this. There's a lot of loneliness and a lot of challenges going on right now. For all of us. Yeah, for sure. For all of us, they can't have graduation. They're living. They're upset. You know, these are these deeds. They want their senior year to end and yet they can't even move to them. You know? I'm trying. I'm trying as best you are. I'm not I don't have all the solutions. I blow up just like you do. I got stuck. Well next to my bed here. Try to remind myself every day. Keep it together. Keep it together. Keep it together. I sound like Eddie Murphy. There's my like, I am My gratitude gratitude book after book staying connected dealing with you know, clarity cleanse everything conceivable doing my yoga, everything to keep mentally physically my walk my hikes to stay sound. So when we come out of this guys, and hopefully, you know, we all stay healthy during this as we're doing so much social distancing that we can come out of this healthier, stronger and more connected than ever.
Jon Leon Guerrero 45:26
Yeah for sure along those lines what can we coax you into
Taylor Dayne 45:31
Oreo cookies at night basically what I'm saying is because I have a shitload of them in a junk load in one jar. I did five last night that was like, whoo. So
Jon Leon Guerrero 45:42
yeah. Oreo cookies. That's been your secret.
Taylor Dayne 45:45
That's my thing. Well, that's my like, that's my, my, my thing. That's my cheat.
Jon Leon Guerrero 45:51
Yeah. Now that you've been through the book writing process, though, how about capturing something about you've you've looked at your past how Looking at the future for for all of us doing some more motivational stuff and going through the process of writing another book, do you see that in your future?
Taylor Dayne 46:08
Yeah, it would be more health and wellness. And I would do it with the my hormone and my endocrine chronologist specialist, Dr. quiner. I would couple that up with with obviously, more of the memoir of the moment, which would be more of health, wellness, staying positive staying and you know, this is a trying time for most people, and what I've been doing the last 347 years to really optimize my energy and I stay on top of it like a religion. It's a religion for me, and mental, you know, mental health as well. Yeah. That's what I would do. I would focus on a wellness, health and also how to keep and reach your greatest energy capacity.
Jon Leon Guerrero 46:51
Well, if the live comments are any indicator, you have an audience out there who really wants it from you.
Taylor Dayne 46:56
I love you. I mean, I tried to Look, you have to live your you know, you walk your walk. It's not so much the exercise, it's doing the exercise. It's not so much talking to talk, it's walking the walk. So I will share that with you. And that would be the next book, if you will it absolutely at a stage presentation or, you know, a stage show a Vegas show, if you will, for me, I'd love to have a residency there with tell it's my heart. Wow.
Jon Leon Guerrero 47:23
Yes, please sign up.
Taylor Dayne 47:26
You know, that's what we've done with ladies of the 80s and created this, you know, from Jody to Lisa, Lisa, to the point of sisters, Bonnie pointer, you know, that's, that's, you know, producing more events like that. And of course, motivational speaking. I mean, if that's really what the TED talk was, was, I can speak I know what to do. I can do it.
Jon Leon Guerrero 47:46
Okay, well, it sounds like that's what's next. It sounds like that's what the audience wants from you. We can't wait.
Taylor Dayne 47:51
I will never stop touring. Until I have to.
Jon Leon Guerrero 47:55
Yeah, well, don't
Taylor Dayne 47:56
think is number one.
Jon Leon Guerrero 47:59
Don't stop talking. For sure, absolutely. And where do you live? Do you live on the east
Taylor Dayne 48:04
coast to the west coast? No, no, I'm in Los Angeles. Okay, and Miami I placed my I'm in both, but I'm primarily in LA. Since we're in quarantine. Yeah. Wow. It's
Pete Turner 48:13
always not a bad place to be quarantined. Boy, there's a lot of great work with too.
Taylor Dayne 48:18
Yeah, I mean, this is Yeah. Although it's been rather rainy and it but it's okay. We're getting through it. Yeah, I'm here. I'm hunkered down with those with them. Kids with them kids. Them babies. They're not babies anymore. They're grown ass.
Pete Turner 48:32
But yes, they got mouths and legs and attitudes and all that stuff.
Taylor Dayne 48:38
Don't you know? Sounds like you know.
Pete Turner 48:42
Yeah, I mean, like any kind of bad behavior. I get my kids great. She She's awesome. But yeah, I definitely deserve whatever badness I get. I was. I was pretty horrible.
Jon Leon Guerrero 48:56
That's true.
Taylor Dayne 48:58
Well, I wasn't meaning. I was wasn't necessarily not horrible, but I just was like, follow the yellow brick road. I had a mission man I was like out the house on tour. I was already working in clubs 1718 anyway, and I was fortunate I grew up in New York, I was in the bitter end bottom line. I mean, all these places were accessible to me. That's what I was doing. And I was working on with original you know, writers and stuff by 18. So it was very unique times if you will.
Jon Leon Guerrero 49:22
You stay in touch with your Long Island roots musically speaking. Do you have people you made music with back there that you still make music with now?
Taylor Dayne 49:29
Tommy burns went on to he's in those first videos you see probably love and things. And Tommy was with me the first job Tommy went on. He's he's been with Billy Joel now for the last 28 years, I guess. His his MD and everything like that. Other players. I mean, God bless, Rick Wait, we lost some of our people along the way which can credit still doing what he's doing, Richie. Yeah. Richie Kannada who runs a studio God Willing is still alive. His partner clay passed. You know, some of them have passed and God bless them.Bobby Conway did some of the Greatest Guitar work on my first records? The great singer.Oh goodness, Billy t Scott, who did all my arrangements with me who when I was just in a just they taught me all those moves him and Jamila background singers Cedric, they taught me all that stuff for those sessions. He went on to work with Mariah and did all Mariah sessions with her ability scout. We miss you. So we've lost a lot of great ones, too.
Pete Turner 50:31
Yeah. Yeah. Well, keep doing what you're doing. And judging by all the comments and quotes, everybody's already ready to buy airline tickets to go to Vegas to watch your residency. Just keep doing
Taylor Dayne 50:43
Stay tuned. Obviously a lot of stuff has been postponed. Yeah. For the march shows my March and April and May shows are now postponed and we will look we're fighting to we're fighting. We're all hunkering down to see hopefully June we can reconvene and all those dates will be re posted and we will let you know when they have been postponed to people that have tickets for the Arizona shows and other things that have come up and obviously the shows that we just canceled here for Vegas in March and it's been trying it's been difficult many artists are suffering and and I don't want to be one of them at this point. So I'm looking forward to June is when I think we can get reconvene and get our head get ourselves out there and doing what we need to do. Yeah,
Pete Turner 51:28
and the best place to stay updated is that you're on your website
Taylor Dayne 51:31
Absolutely. Even though Taylor Dean calm certainly go to my Facebook page. You know, I'm very active on my Facebook page. I'm very active on my Instagram the real Taylor Dayne, it da y and E for anybody that's still holding on to that da any that was a stripper in the day that was a porn star. I am not Taylor Dayne. I'm not that stripper. I am not that porn star. We are da y like the day, the day of the Dane and yes, they're all verified, you can find just posted very public and very active on all those things. counts my website, you can find all the merchandise and all the concerts that have been postponed. And we're trying to keep it as up to date as we can while we get information like you all do, right?
Pete Turner 52:11
Yeah, and let us know. We're glad to push things out. and everything like that will be in the show notes. If you're listening and you're not sure, just break it down, show calm, you'll see Taylor's name on there or go to the any of the web pages where we have our presence, you'll be able to find our information, or just simply go to Taylor dayne.com. And you guys will do it. And make sure you guys like and comment and review the book when you buy it.
Unknown Speaker 52:32
That's right, yeah. buy the
Taylor Dayne 52:34
book. Let's check out that 30 year edition. That's the 30 year anniversary because it has a lot of cool new remixes that you might like, and some of the news, some some new stuff that I put on there, which were born just saying and people have been asking me because that was that was the song I wrote and did for the TED Talk. So it's on there. It's quite beautiful.
Pete Turner 52:52
Yeah, keep writing songs. You're great at it. Thank you so much. As far as I'm concerned. I'm good on questions. JOHN, do you have anything else?
Jon Leon Guerrero 52:59
I do? Just want to say I you know I've always been a big fan of yours and I love you even more now than I did an hour ago. Yes.
Taylor Dayne 53:08
Beautiful. What a beautiful talk today. Thank you so much. And thank you all my fans. Thank you for becoming a fan. Thank you for listening.Keep going guys
Jon Leon Guerrero 53:20
doing we want to help promote, so just let us know.
Taylor Dayne 53:22
Well Joanne will is in touch with you. So we got this so she's my she's my angel, you know that Joanne makes so we got that.
Jon Leon Guerrero 53:30
Terrific. Taylor, Dane, everybody. We love you.
Taylor Dayne 53:33
Love you guys. Thank you so so much guys. Have a great rest of your day.