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Angelo Sisco – Keep Going, CrossFit, Alpha Hippie - Angelo Sisco is a cross-fit trainer, gym owner of O'Hare Crossfit, podcast host and people’s person. He a pioneer in the cross-fit training community.
Pete A Turner is joined by Angelo Sisco where he shares with us his life story of how from an overweight boy with a tough childhood he became one of the most successful cross-fit trainers. Angelo turned his life around, lost 95 pounds and became happy through self-discipline and sheer focus. Now he helps others accomplish the same thing. He teaches people how to re-learn their bodies and live a better life. He connects with them and through positive reinforcement and lessons from his own experiences |
helps them with their journey.
He is also the Alpha Hippie, the host of the podcast “Alpha Hippie Podcast” a show that covers all things cross-fit, fitness, health and body progression.
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Executive Producer/Intro/: Pete A. Turner
Producer: Damjan Gjorgjiev
Writer: Bojan Spasovski
He is also the Alpha Hippie, the host of the podcast “Alpha Hippie Podcast” a show that covers all things cross-fit, fitness, health and body progression.
Haiku
You can keep going
Become an Alpha Hippie
You will love that you
#cross-fit #fitness #health #exercise #trainer #life #podcast #discipline #progress #alphahippie #podcast #life #episode
Join us in supporting Save the Brave by making a monthly donation.
Executive Producer/Intro/: Pete A. Turner
Producer: Damjan Gjorgjiev
Writer: Bojan Spasovski
Transcription
Pete Turner 0:00
Everybody Pete a Turner, executive producer and host of the break it down show. And as we are all trying to get our heads right as we enter the new year and support resolutions, of course, you know, I'm going to push you to be more charitable and to be more healthy and that is exactly where I am at. I'm trying to be even more involved in charity this year, and continue my quest to walk and swim a whole lot more and even starting to push some weights as I've finished, I think I think I've finished recovering from my hernia surgery.
Everybody Pete a Turner, executive producer and host of the break it down show. And as we are all trying to get our heads right as we enter the new year and support resolutions, of course, you know, I'm going to push you to be more charitable and to be more healthy and that is exactly where I am at. I'm trying to be even more involved in charity this year, and continue my quest to walk and swim a whole lot more and even starting to push some weights as I've finished, I think I think I've finished recovering from my hernia surgery.
So we're going to start putting some weights up in the air and getting more healthy. And with that comes my man, Angela Cisco from Chicago, Illinois. Angelo is a it's interesting dude. He was a heavier guy and then found CrossFit and it stuck with him. And so ultimately, he started doing CrossFit and apart this is you've heard the story so many times. Tony Jeffries, same thing, just started working out and people kept joining him and joining him until he had a gym. And now he has a podcast and he calls himself the alpha hippie because he's just trying to get people happy. Be healthy and and help them find their own thing just like he did. He was he was hit by I believe it was a garbage truck and just crushed him and broke him up so badly that for a long time, he wasn't able to even move well at all. He had a whole bunch of problems with dealing with his childhood upbringing and trying to sort all those things out. And again, it was CrossFit that saved it. So in an effort to help us all find that moment of inspiration to know that there's, you know, the thing with with working out being fit, that wagon always stops, you can get back on after the holidays, and hopefully, what Angela talks about what inspires some of you to find that time, even if it's 10 or 20 minutes a day, you know, do the powder Matt Mosler thing we get outside and you let nature give you all and wonder. So Angela, and I have this conversation about life and what it is and he talks fast if you listen on at a higher rate of speed here that slow this one down because Angelo puts an hour and a half with commentary into about 45 minutes. I know you're going to love this episode, I'm going to push you right now to make sure you support the show, share it, push these episodes out the people we have so many different things right now we're hitting a little heavy on the fitness thing because of the new year coming up. But there's so many great episodes coming up. But just make sure you share the episodes. That's that's a really big thing. That's my specific ask for the day, send it an email, whatever you do, let me know what you did. And I'm glad to share that. Okay, look. So check it out here. Here's what we're going to do. Go to save the brave.org click on the monthly donation tab, put a small amount of money in there. If you've had some extra money you want to donate for your annual year in charity giving to your tax threshold by all means kick that money in there as well. And let's do this together. If you've got land you want to donate that is a fantastic way for charities to take that asset liquidated get the money put it to work and get that land back out on the market. So you know if you if you were in that situation where something like that works for you, let's do it. Otherwise you Here comes my man, Angela Cisco, the alpha hippie. You're going to love millions rock productions.
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Pete Turner 3:19
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Angelo Sisco 3:23
hey this is Angelo Sisco and you're listening to the breakdown show
Pete Turner 3:29
yeah Angelo and I we swapped podcast is my turn to have him on my show. And Angelo's an inspirational guy he but he's got a journey he's gonna tell us about that but basically he runs a you know, a gym a Fitness Studio CrossFit style and I think especially now post holidays Angela, you know he all need a little over here I am I just finished eating pie. We all need a reminder on on how to get fit, stay healthy, but also the wellness part of that the mental wellness part of what you do, I think is really cool. So give us a little background on who you are how you got there. And by the way, how cold is in Illinois right now?
Unknown Speaker 4:11
Um, I think today it's like 40 it's definitely it's not too bad. It's actually pretty sunny today. So we're really lucky a few days in the weekend it was is that cold rain, and that's pretty miserable. So we're, we're happy for this stuff today. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, lungs, you know, just long story, just kind of breaking it down as short as I possibly can is I grew up in a town called Melrose Park. It's just outside of Chicago. It's right near O'Hare Airport. And I grew up overweight. And I grew up also to what my father went to prison for 11 years from when I was five till I was 16. So I didn't grow up with much masculine role models and, and obviously, my dad tried to do the best he can, or he could when he was in prison, but you can only imagine what what it's like to just be in President for 11 years. I mean, he was he was really doing that. And you know, the lifestyle that my dad was living was so different than the lifestyle that a five and six and seven, eight year old boy was living. And so the advice that he gave me,
Pete Turner 5:13
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Unknown Speaker 5:37
By city that he gave me really was from someone that was in prison and looking through life in that way. So a lot of what I did when I was young, it's I was really forced to grow up really early work most of my life and really taking care of myself as best as I possibly could. And throughout that time I was also overweight, which was also a very taboo subject in my house and being that way because my father grew up overweight. And it was probably one of the biggest struggles of his life. And him seeing me being overweight really caused him to, to really be stressed about it. And as a young boy, I really didn't understand it just felt like my dad was being an addict to me. And so I grew up in that kind of environment working, trying to support myself, my mother had to get a job, my dad when my dad left, and just trying to navigate through life like that, trying to draw my own conclusions of what life is at that age is is really a that's a tough thing because you don't even have an awareness yet.
Pete Turner 6:31
When you say overweight, what are we talking like? What was your biggest size?
Unknown Speaker 6:35
Sure, brother. My biggest size in my adult life was 300 pounds. So I was I'm 592 It's not like I'm super tall. And so yeah, and so I got up to that weight. And, you know, he came home when I was 16. And I was, I was in school. In college. I went to college for a little bit really didn't know what I was doing there really didn't have much direction. And when I was 20 years old, I was in a motorcycle accident. I was hit by landscaping truck. It blue, the blue, a red light and hit the left side of my body and I have 10 screws and a plate and like skin grafts all over my lower leg and very limited range of motion to my ankle and I was in the hospital for two months, and rehab for five months. It was a very long process. And so at that point in 20, I was 20 years old. And I started gaining a lot of weight. I really wasn't doing much I really didn't have much direction in my life. And fast forward. a year or two after the accident. My parents wind up getting divorced. I was still a boy I really didn't understand how after all this time my parents could get divorce. It really did. My brain could wrap around. Like if you don't see somebody for 11 years and are an intimate with them. It's probably weird. You know, it means a whole different person and I just couldn't understand that at the time. And the reason I share that is because on top of the accident, you know, that really stressed me out I was eating a lot. I wasn't really happy with my life. I stumbled upon the movie 300 Have you seen the movie?
Pete Turner 7:58
Yeah.
Angelo Sisco 8:00
Right around 2008 I watched that movie. And I was like, Man, these guys look different than like other hero movies because most of the people like in that action movies are just gigantic, just really bulky and big. But these guys were all lean and moving well and doing all this. And so I started doing some research, and I was still overweight. At this time. I really wasn't working. I wasn't working out at all, there really wasn't anything and I came to find out they trained in a gym in Utah called Jim Jones. And so I started studying Jim Jones stuff, and then I saw that Jim Jones was a part of this thing called CrossFit. And, you know, I was a new year's resolution gone absolutely amazing. So in January 5 2009, I started doing CrossFit by myself. I like I said, I weighed 300 pounds, my ankle, it was also me re learning how to move athletically with this new ankle. It was a really, really interesting time for me. I lost 95 pounds in seven months.
Pete Turner 8:52
Wow. Holy cow.
Angelo Sisco 8:55
Yeah, completely changed completely changed my life.
Pete Turner 8:58
So let's back up a little bit. Talk about some of this trauma you had to go through. I mean, before your dad goes to prison, would you? Was your life relatively normal? Or was it kind of chaotic?
Unknown Speaker 9:09
Yeah, great question. I can honestly say it was pretty chaotic. So my father, my father grew up overweight and also lived in a very unsupportive home and I'll share this story. So give some context to his choices. His father didn't really talk to him, his mother like Ford's the work permit when he was a kid, he had a really tough, tough life, my father and he hit puberty and he grew and became a big man and he realized if someone made fun of him for being fat, that he could be physical or violent with them, and that would stop is stopped him from feeling sad. And so it's kind of crazy is violence really gave my father freedom. If you look at it much how cross it gave me freedom. And so when I was a little boy, I was taught to be violent at a very young age, even when he was home. Four years old, five years old. If like you He saw that some kids weren't nice to me at like a pool or something. He would grab me to go fight the kids. Right? So, honestly, I have no idea. You know, when you think about I really don't know what I was doing. But I wanted to make my daddy proud. I knew that right? Like, I think when you're a little boy, you're just like, Hey, you know, the greatest when you're a boy, in my opinion, the greatest satisfaction is when your dad is proud of you. It's like, because he's your hero. Yeah, your guy, right? And that's like the that is like the biggest figure in your world that your dad gives you praise. You know, that's all the praise you need. Like your mom, you know, for me anyways, my mom gave you praise. If you just got up and we're alive. My dad, he plays only if you did stuff, right. Yeah. So yeah, I kind of grew up in that chaotic, violent, not violent. He was never violent with me, but like being violent with other people and using that as a, as a tool. If, if someone was doing something that was imbalanced, you know, this was just, it was just the way I grew up. And it was what I knew and the neighborhood and the people that I grew up with that was really reinforced.
Pete Turner 11:01
And were you athletic at all growing up or no?
Unknown Speaker 11:05
You're great question. No, man, I wasn't really athletic at all, man. It's a, you know, it's a combination of one I got my first job when I was 10 years old, I worked at a barber shop, cleaning it up, because I needed to make some money and also to, you know, when you don't have a male figure at your home at your house, and it's your sister, your grandmother and your mother, like no one's playing catch with you. Like, it's just like, it's just not part of the thing. So I played a little bit of Little League. But you know, I was always overweight, didn't really feel athletic and didn't really feel confident that because I didn't know how to do it, right. And there was nobody really available to me that was trying to show me and so I didn't take much of a liking. I did I played Little League probably to like, fifth or sixth grade. And then I didn't play a sport through high school. And
Pete Turner 11:48
so when you're trying to relearn your body, you're really kind of learning it from scratch almost because you didn't run around and play football and baseball and all those things enough to really have that built in already.
Unknown Speaker 12:00
You want to hear a funny story? I just started the last two and a half months, I've been re learning swimming. Oh, good for you. All right. And, you know, I was like, Man, I'm gonna go swimming and I have so my left foot doesn't dorsiflex so if you've ever been swimming, obviously, you point your foot, I really can't do that. So I kind of kick the leg with one with one you know, with one foot versus the other ones kind of propelling me well, and so man, I'll tell you what, what I did Pete is I was like, how can I make this where I could just learn how to swim and and not be so chaotic. And so I bought some flippers Yeah, and for a month for a month I only swim with flippers I learned the breathing I learned my arm and everything or arms and everything like that. And last week I swim I swim 800 meters without stopping. And so it just re learning things all the time. I am physically pretty much I it's kind of funny that we said this before I did the swimming thing I did jujitsu to realer kind of renewed my relationship with being physical with another person and not having not having it to be this You know, I grew up where you know someone said something that nice to you punch them as fast as you could so you didn't have to. So you could win. Right and and so that's just the environment that I grew up in Sure. And so it was nice to like relearned you like I did jujitsu for a couple years relearn jujitsu and started doing the swimming towards the winter now, and it's just, yeah, I'm really learning things physically that's giving me a better relationship with myself.
Pete Turner 13:24
Yeah, that's great. And how is swimming treated you What would you What are you getting out of it that maybe it's different than CrossFit?
Unknown Speaker 13:30
who met my favorite thing about swimming is this. If you try to swim reckless and hard, a hot water pump, the water punishes you. The water is very right. The water is very righteous, where most things in our lives we've been taught that aggression, Trump's even skill at times in a short term kind of way, but when you're swimming, if you treat that water, not nice, she's going to make you feel it some way somehow you'll you'll either drink a sip of water, you'll feel off balance, you know what I mean? Yeah, and that's what I love the most about the water. It's like, like I said, it's a very righteous place to be. It's very fair.
Pete Turner 14:08
It's tough but fair, the less you fight water, and the more smooth and elegantly you swim, the faster and longer you can go. That's for sure. Great.
Unknown Speaker 14:17
Yeah, it's, it's really nice. And so where was I lost 95 pounds, let's get back to the deterioration. So I lost 95 pounds. Like I said before about my father cross. It gave me freedom. I felt like a whole new lease on life. I was 25 years old. And I felt like I found the thing that that was going to make me like a man like this was my vehicle to for my own growth and what I would like to share with people and I started to train and people outside for free. I had another business at the time. And so it was at night. And so during the day, I would just research and learn about exercise and nutrition and train and train, train people outside for fun. And then I was like, man, why can I make this my career this would be so great. This wouldn't even feel like work. I started training people at a park for a fee and then September of 2009, that same year, rented a racquetball court space and I converted that into a little gym. And then October of two, or November of 2010, I opened O'Hare across it and we just celebrated a nine year anniversary. And it's been a crazy ride.
Pete Turner 15:19
It has been a crazy ride and yet great timing. What was it? I mean, because there was the whole 300 workout. And then right about that time also, yeah, the CrossFit thing was being born and you could do all those goofy workouts, the Cindy, the Cheryl, all those things. What about that click? I mean, nothing had clicked before. And all of a sudden you would sort of figured it out. You didn't know this then but you kept doing it. What was it?
Unknown Speaker 15:46
I watched the video one day of this guy named Josh ever who was like the original, like, you know, like, you know how there's Rich froning and all these big cross it people. Josh Everett back in the day. anyone that knows CrossFit was like a monster. He was 100 Hundred 85 pound guy, he could clean and jerk a lot of weight but he had a good body weight awareness and I wants to do this workout called King Kong which is a mixture of lifting heavy barbells but also doing higher skill gymnastic stuff. And I watched him do this I was like this is this is how I would love to express myself physically, I would love to be able to pick up heavy things and move and do that I'd love to be able to move my body and have body awareness to do gymnastics and agile movements. This would be like the perfect combination. And so that's what really drew me to CrossFit. I wanted to be able to be super strong, but I wanted to do things I wanted to express myself physically that was also more than just looks
Pete Turner 16:39
as you hit these barriers that that inevitably come up as you go on these kinds of journeys. What barriers Did you hit describe like how you dealt with that all those things.
Unknown Speaker 16:49
So as far as my journey into cross it the first day I did my workout I cried on the way walking home from from the little local village gym and I cried because Cuz I didn't realize how out of shape I was man. I really did. And I thought, you know, you don't realize how far you you've gone to you do something like, like ended a physical test. And it was a bunch of stuff in a row. And at the very end, you had to do one minute of burpees. And I was like, so dead from the test. I did three burpees in one minute. And like I was destroyed. Yeah, I went home. It was the first time I consciously made a decision that was only about making myself proud. Yeah, it wasn't about making someone else proud or doing something so my dad would notice me or other people would notice me or girls would notice me. Like I knew that day that I was calling back because I wanted to make myself proud. And I feel I could still feel that day that I made that decision. And so that was that was like a huge barrier for me right off the bat that I had to make a commitment that I was doing this for me and it was just Angelo. It was the Angelo show. It wasn't about anybody else on law. That was a Huge, huge barrier for me that I started training people you want to go into that I really, I really had no business accurate. I'm very, very good with people, I'm really good with emotions. But I was that person that like, in order for me to rent out my first space, I had to put my name on my sister's checking account because I didn't even have a checking. guy was like, I was not that guy, you know, I'm just making taking cash doing stuff like that. And so I signed the lease of the gym. And I didn't know that you had to, like go get like a business license or anything like that. I wound up opening the gym and getting almost shut down because I just I didn't know you had to do all the business licenses and approvals and stuff. Like I didn't know any of the business side of doing things. All I knew is is I had this thing that was CrossFit. And at the time, in 2009 and 2010. I was one of the few people in this area that actually knew what it was and was trying to define it for other people a lot of people didn't know across it was it was a very unknown fitness methodology and execute an exercise program because there was times when I would go to like regular gyms and I would leave the treadmill running, because I would do a workout where I would run and then I would run all the way into the weight room do a bunch of deadlifts or something, and I'd be running around these like big box gyms and they would just be kicking me out all the time, because they thought I was as dangerous. You know what I mean? Leaving the treadmill, leaving the treadmill, like seven or eight miles an hour doubting, and that you know what I mean? It was just such an unknown thing. But I felt so connected to it. You know, like I wanted it was a vehicle that gave me freedom, and I wanted to share it with people in the same way because I wanted them to experience this freedom that it gave. Hmm,
Pete Turner 19:38
yeah, that's great. So as you're experiencing this freedom and this growth, it you're having to learn one how to be a businessman and do all the things legally, but also, you know, learning how to train people. It's one thing to go through a whole course and all that kind of stuff, maybe get a degree in it, but you're sort of you know, you're doing the autodidact thing. You're just doing this yourself. What gave you the conference. Nice to see that through. That's that's not easy to do, man.
Unknown Speaker 20:02
Yeah. You know, when I opened the gym, I was the sort of typical Underdog Story, I wanted to prove why I wanted to prove to myself that I could do it. I also wanted to prove to my family and people that I knew that even though I dropped out of college, that I was still going to make something of myself, like I had a really crazy identity wrapped around like, you know, I wasn't really doing anything worthwhile. I mean, that business that I had, we were just selling pizza slices outside to drugs outside of bars and clubs in Chicago really wasn't anything pretty sophisticated, made money, obviously, because it was fun and people were really into it. But, you know, I wanted something that I could say at a party that I was really proud of. And that was mine. And and that I created. I really wanted to, you know, there's, there's certain, you know, there's as far as like feeling empowered, like for you to have a thought, and that thought, be an idea, and you tell someone out loud that you're going to do that. And then you do that, that is probably one of the most like biggest builders of self esteem. Like because now you know that you could create something it's such a beautiful thing and so I really felt called to be doing that.
Pete Turner 21:11
So you're dealing with these things and you're discovering pride in your own efforts. And and starting from a place of I want to build pride, but also doing things for you not to try to impress your dad or anybody else. When you're talking and training with your other people, you must surely be pulling those lessons out for them as well.
Unknown Speaker 21:33
Yeah, totally. I think one of the things that has really helped me actually be a coach and a trainer is I was my journey is more like my clients journey than the guy that was the stud football player quarterback, went to college, got an exercise, his degree is done playing sports, but now he wants to train people I could connect to people in their darkness because I've lived it. You know what I mean? And I think that's what really draws people to working with me in any capacity is I am not the typical guy. That's a coach, right? I'm I made this up, you know? Uh huh. Uh huh.
Pete Turner 22:15
No, I get it. You start to get this goal and you start to see some success, you start to pick up the the rules of business, but you just keep going and get better and better. Talk a little bit about your evolution not on like the wellness side and the workouts that but on the business side. I mean, look, you are supposed to be crippled by imposter syndrome, because that's exactly what you actually are. And yet you kept going.
Unknown Speaker 22:40
Yeah, you know, it was. It was such a nice time. And as soon as the gym started getting going, and I was able to create some revenue that was beyond just what I needed to live. I completely just threw it all in education for myself. I, I couldn't stop learning, like I wanted to learn and I would reach out to mentors and Do and do their programs or ask them for calls and, and stuff like that I was just throwing every piece of money that I had into, into me essentially, because I really believe that if I the more wisdom that I carried, the more I would be able to help people. And so I had a very deep time. 2010 1112 1314 15 just learning just learning from business coaches go into masterminds. Yeah, I really didn't take money out of the gym. Unless it was for something like that. It was very, for these two and a half three years I didn't go on a vacation or anything like that. It was just to go travel to go to someone seminar or pay pay so and so to do an hour Skype call with me. So I could review has all this stuff with them. And I just really wanted to feel like I was the best at what I did. And I did what I believed that entails to feel that way.
Pete Turner 23:56
Yeah. So as you go out and you do This you start to you connect with the people that you're training. Let's talk about that a little bit. So it's one thing to Sam group of people, but you must have been getting better at people too, because they keep coming back, you keep finding new clients, all of that stuff is a validation that you're doing it the right way. Give us some insight on that.
Unknown Speaker 24:18
Yeah. You know, I was I was extremely and still am extremely passionate about people being aware and happy that I was holding them to a higher standard than maybe they really believed at that given time. Okay, I just really wanted to, you know, to see people grow and evolve and become more confident and become better people. You know, I just truly believe you know, how you how you treat your body is in direct proportion of how you feel about yourself. Okay. I really believe that and I wanted to be used to show people that they could use exercise and cross it and proper nutrition change their whole outlook on their life because that was exactly what happened to me. I mean, when I lost almost 100 pounds, I was a happier person I just was I was happier to be around people. I was happier to buy clothes, I was just happy to do that. And I really wanted people to have their version of that journey inside the walls of my gym, like whatever that whatever that was for them. So for me, it was losing 100 pounds. For some people, it's losing weight. Some people it's gaining muscle for some people, it's doing a certain type of movement or certain weight of something and I just, I wanted O'Hare across it to be the vehicle to help people get to be the best version of themselves.
Pete Turner 25:39
What kind of mantra did you come up with for people as your career coaching and again, you're getting better at coaching people, they keep coming back you you're not turning in the park anymore. So what were some of the just, you know, that self talk that positive self talk that you've got to have to be able to push those those burpee sessions, you know how many burpees This much time, you know, I can do this. I'm the best. What are those? Some of those mantras?
Unknown Speaker 26:04
Yeah, for sure. So one of the things that I really focus on when it comes to that stuff is speaking in the positive. So never saying like, don't stop, I think that's one of the hardest things for people to really get out of saying, because when you say like, don't stop, it focuses on the negative, because you're saying what you don't want to happen, right? And so just making sure like, I could keep moving, I can keep moving, I can keep moving like little things like that, like that was probably more, it was really dependent on the person and their language with that would really relate it to them. Like this was just a big example. So I just trained somebody for the fire department, and we had to get through all of this testing. And that was what we did is I can keep moving. I can keep moving because if you say that versus don't stop, right, I can keep moving is a much more empowering phrase. I love it. And so that's like what I really just tried to do is tap into how the people naturally speak to them. And then try to rework their their own language to help them really connect to it because the way I connected something may not be the way you connect to it, especially if it's a word right? Because that's why people are you on the internet all the time because when they don't know context, right, and so it's really just trying to get deeper into them and their psychology and then just tweak what they have to make it more positive.
Pete Turner 27:21
Angelo is got a podcast and he kind of covers a lot of these things on it. And it's called the alpha hippie podcast, you can get it on iTunes, Spotify, you can also get at his website. But the main thing I want you guys to know is that there's a lot of resources out there people that are have actually, it's one thing they've always been in shape, you know, and say, This is how you get fit. But it's another thing to say I could not get off the couch and now look at where I am, you know, I mean, this is sort of the point of having someone like Angelo on the show. Talk to us about your podcast, what it's about how you've grown with that.
Unknown Speaker 27:56
Yeah, brothers for sure. So in around 2015 I was going through a period actually with the gym 2014 2015 where I see 2011 1213 14 early in 2014 I caught the very big bubble of, of CrossFit of growing my gym and stuff like that. So I was already established and then this thing became mainstream and i was growing at such rates were like 85% 275% like i was growing way more you know what I mean than the normal rates of business growth is and of course my silliness really thought that it was because of me, right? I really thought of, you know, and then wound up happening is is when we weren't having such a dramatic growth I wound up turning into a little bit of a victim and blaming other people blaming the people that I worked with worked for me, you know, just all these things and then I I stumbled upon a leadership book and it really hit me that I was the biggest limiter I was the reason that it wasn't so growing and I'll doing all these things and And then I started reading things like emotional intelligence that was my first, like emotional intelligence. 2.0 was the first book that I read, that really helped me understand like self awareness and looking introspectively and thinking about how I'm treating myself and what am I doing saying to myself, and it began a really big path to self discovery. I, I started going on retreats, just to talk about mindfulness and relooking my life and my childhood, decoding all these things and understanding, you know, why do I make the choices that I even make? And one day I came back from a retreat, and I was explaining to someone what we were doing some breathing and meditation thing. The guy laughed at me at first you kind of scoffed at it. Like I thought it was a silly thing to do. And I said, Well, the reason that you don't understand this shit is because you're not enough. Maybe I don't even know why I'm explaining this to you. And I was like, Wow, what a fun idea. And so I looked online, I wanted to wear a T shirt that said alpha hippie, and I didn't find any and so I decided to draw a logo, and I printed out 100 shirts for outfit had be at first and I wore them and share them with all my friends and went to all these festivals and all these retreats all over the world and just share them.
Pete Turner 30:08
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Unknown Speaker 30:30
went to all these festivals and all these retreats all over the world and just share them with people and they would take pictures and post on Instagram for me it was really awesome. And I was like well how can I continue to spread this message and really grow and develop new relationships and also to develop a community that people identify themselves as this idea of being an alpha p You're not? No you're not all the way last year that all the way right? There's some things that you believe they that you should be doing but you also are kind of generous to people along the way. And then I started the podcast at guest is about 85 episodes. And now about a year and a half a little more than a year and a half and I was fortunate to be connected with you and have you on and, and just look at that, like my my web of friendships and relationships have just completely grown and blossom by meeting people and connecting with people that identify with this idea of being an alpha had been serving and serving the world. And it's just been absolutely amazing that it's just been so great to for me relationships are my currency than the more people that I could really connect with on a judgment level. And especially to at the where I'm at right now as a man with other people being alive in that way. It's just a gift to have.
Pete Turner 31:38
Yeah, yeah. What a great message. What guests have really changed how you see the world who's stuck with it.
Angelo Sisco 31:45
Oh man who worked really, really sure so there's there's two gentlemen that I've had on two separate times. One of his name is Aaron hind and the other is Orion mela hand and they are the owners of the fayed it's a beverage company out of Santa Cruz, California. And they were the first people that I've met in business that really helped me understand that I had this idea of business being a businessman, very similar to probably what people would know as like Gordon Gekko. Okay, I thought, I thought in order for you to make a lot of money for you to be successful, you had a run over people, I thought that that was how it worked. Right. And upon meeting these two men having on my show, being able to spend intimate time with them, they were the first two people that really helped me understand that you could be successful and that you could be creative and free and open and you can love people and it wasn't about what they could give you or take from them and it completely changed my whole outlook on how I really approach all business doings and it made it it was in a way that I just thought was so genuine. And those two guys I mean complete debt to for that those are two amazing people. They're amazing entrepreneurs and businessmen and What I have something in my business life where I need help those old people?
Pete Turner 33:04
Yeah, that's interesting. So you found yourself some legitimate mentors to kind of, you know, replace your, your, your broken mentor past with your dad. I mean, that's, that's a big thing to be able to take on how is your relationship with your dad today?
Unknown Speaker 33:20
Awesome. No, it took a lot of work took a lot of work, a lot of discussions, a lot of understanding on my part. But today we have a we have a phenomenal relationship. And I think the biggest reason why it's really phenomenal is oftentimes I think in parent relationships, the parents, it's difficult for them to look at their kids, adult kids, as a man and woman, okay? It's because they don't really see them that way. And, you know, through through my actions and how I conduct myself and through my communication by my father and mother, really look at me like I'm a man and I'm Understand that I appreciate who they are. But their relationship with me is much better in a friendship form than it is in a mentorship. At this point in my life, it kind of takes the stress off both of us, my dad could just be my friend, and he doesn't have to worry about trying to tell me how to live my life, and I don't have to worry about trying to do things to make him approve of me. Right. So it's better with some much more open and much more relaxed relationship. And I love the relationship that we have now because, you know, despite all the despite all the way he taught me, his lessons are really valuable. It's really important to stand up for yourself and, and and believe in yourself and be courageous. And it's important to to take action relatively quickly when you feel when you feel right about something, right. These were things like if you really zoom out, it's probably why I was able to coach people. It's probably why I even open the gym to begin with because I was just able to do those things. I didn't have much skill at the time, but I had tenacity and that's what he tried to teach me Would you know that we can argue all we want about the methods? Sure, the lessons, the lessons done the left there really are, nonetheless are really valuable when I was able to get past my trauma and zoom out and really understand his point of view and really understand his lessons. I'm super grateful for it, man, because I wouldn't have been crazy enough to think I could do it without having someone that made me that you don't mean the baby feel that passionate about doing Mm hmm. And so yeah, we have a really cool relationship.
Pete Turner 35:30
Now. That's fantastic. I love hearing that. I love hearing that you got this. You sort of got this thing figured out a little bit. what's what's next for you? What's on the horizon?
Unknown Speaker 35:39
Yeah, brother. So I, three months ago, I was in a hot yoga class. And I had a vision for a new fitness concept or maybe a modified fitness concept that what I already have, I would, one of the challenges I've had with cross it over the time that I've been with it as I've my 11 year relationship. With it, there's not much mindfulness, open, open spoken about mindfulness inside of the CrossFit arena, a lot of lacrosse people believe CrossFit is is disconnect from your brain or disconnect from your body. So you could just go harder. And don't get me wrong. I think there is times where everyone needs to train with someone intensity. But I would also argue, it's not as frequent as most people think. I think if we all trained at 80% 70 to 80%, most days, and one day, every two weeks or maybe three weeks when it really just felt right, you went hard. People, people would be less likely for stress, injuries, overuse injuries, and also I really believe people would develop a better relationship with exercise, because they're going to be more connected throughout the moving of it. And so I'm working on what I'm claiming as a mindful functional fitness concept that I had a vision of that day and I'm putting it together as we speak, what it will look like what it will feel like how the classes are going be just a modified, it's going to be a different version of cross it because it's going to be based on being connected with your body being connected with your breath, not letting go of the connection because one of the challenges I think that happens with CrossFit is in real life, if you're under a stressful situation, the worst thing that you could do is disconnect, and just go off the head and handle it just go and try to blurt through it. It's really like the wrong way to handle stress. And when you think about training, what any training really is, is that you're building up your tolerance for stress. That's what training is, right? I squat 200 pounds. The next week I scored I squatted to 10 I built up 10 more pounds of tolerance of stress that I could put on myself. And so I want people to develop a better stress response with fitness and strength and functional movements and strength and conditioning. And I'm really passionate about this brother and so this is what I'm moving towards and now designing it and and really crafting what I want Really want this to be because this is going to be the thing that the last 10 years of coaching people outside and nine years of owning us are here across it. This is this is with what I have skills up now at 36 is what I'm creating. I'm not just living in what I created when I was 26. Yeah, creating the best of what I have now to my knowledge and expertise.
Pete Turner 38:22
I love it. I just I love your headspace around the whole thing to me, you, you know the path even and you're comfortable not knowing exactly what it all fits how it fits together. And being able to synthesize the lessons that your dad gave you. It is something valuable. You know, maybe he taught you the wrong method, but the lesson seems to have stuck and that's a powerful thing, no matter how you how you chop that like you've actually received a powerful skill set from from his goofy way of teaching you determination or tenacity or whatever it is, and to accept that it's big
Unknown Speaker 39:01
Yeah, it's freedom. Yeah, it is. That's what it really is.
Pete Turner 39:05
Yeah, yeah. Well I'll let you turn the mic around and ask me a couple questions if you want we got a little bit of time because you you talk fast and go fast so we burned through a lot of
Angelo Sisco 39:15
already sorry
Pete Turner 39:16
No, sorry it's great. What do you what do you want to get into
Unknown Speaker 39:20
Oh man, have you done any album shows lately? Oh, you know what
Pete Turner 39:25
are sort of on hiatus with that because of the holidays and Mike who took over running it got a new job but we are going to have some very soon we actually have one that's recorded and then the Can I just have to produce it that's YouTube versus the Beatles. But I you which didn't do in one
Unknown Speaker 39:44
oh my god, I would love to do when i when i first when you were going to be on the show and I started researching you and I go Alright, he's got some funny shows. You got some funny comedians on here and then I saw you do that. I was like, This is so fun. You know. I I love debates of substance like when people really have when people could articulate their opinion, and really help them understand that I think it's such a, I think it's such a nice thing, and especially something like music, which is such a universal language and it hits people differently. It's so nice to hear how something hits you. And it could be completely different for someone else. Yeah. And it's like, I love hearing how people connect to something like that. Because to me, music and food is universal. It's the two things like when you really break down humans, we're all connected by we like some form of food. We have some sort of preference on that. It's true. We love and we have we most people like music, right? It's you know, I have a baby. If we put music on he's very stimulated. He doesn't. You know, this is a very natural thing you have to try to, in my opinion, you have to try to not like music.
Pete Turner 40:51
Yeah, that's awesome, man. I love hearing that the whole thing about music and comparing how it hits you. It's such a big thing. There's so many things times in the show and not in fights where you hear something you're like, Man, I wish I would have thought to say that that's such a great point. And it does recalibrate how you see songs and, or how you hear them and how you experience them. It's, it's, it's a great point, man. And I really I dig how you appreciate that. Does that resonate through the rest of your life to like that perspective acceptance that other people have them and, and they can often enlighten you in ways that you weren't? Like, they can allow you to enjoy things more than you ever could before. If you just allow them to show you how they see the world. For sure. I really,
Unknown Speaker 41:33
man, I would if you asked me what I what I really am. I would say that I'm an artist, I create things. And and I think what every artist really longs for if you're creating something is you want your work to be appreciated. And in order for your work to be appreciated. You have to appreciate other people's forms of communication and styles and doing that and so I'm really open to it because the truth of the matter is what people don't often say enough is for me and you to do this podcast. It's pretty fucking courageous. Yeah. It's like, you know what I mean? We're putting ourselves out there. You're putting yourself out there. I'm putting myself out there. And that's what artists do. And anytime you I see anyone doing that in any form, I want to let them know that I appreciate their work, because I know in turn, I want it the same way when I put myself out there, right? Yeah,
Pete Turner 42:28
yeah. Yeah. How about that crazy podcast growth experience, you do it to represent a brand or to get something off your chest and then what you get back at least from my experience, is 1000 times more than what I ever thought it could be, even though it's not what I thought it was going to be. It's just such a wonderful, life fulfilling machine that just continues to make my life bigger and better and, and more more rich all the time.
Unknown Speaker 42:55
Totally. The thing I love the most about the podcast brother is, you know in this busy world World in this busy world, and I'm sure you know this for a conversation and get really good. It's like the it's like a prize fight. The first round is usually like the first beginning of a conversation. It's pretty, it's pretty off, like people are feeling each other out. Me and you are catching the rhythm of how we're going to kind of dialogue with each other. But then after that second, third, you know what I mean? You start getting into, like, you know, and that's just so great. And I love doing that, then podcasts in an interesting way, almost forced us to dial into that. And I think we see how much we connect with people on such a deep level, just speaking to them for an hour, because there's nothing else that for this hour, but just meeting you, man, you know? Yeah,
Pete Turner 43:42
have you have you pulled any moments of Wonder out of your podcasts like the guests or anything where something hits you just later on or after a shot like lot of times after a shower or during a shower or during a nap? Something will sensitize and unlock my brain and I'm like, Oh man, I completely changed how I see the world.
Angelo Sisco 44:00
Well, man, totally I had a talk with this guy. His name is Tom Foxley. He's got a mindset RX. It's like a mindset thing for crossfitters. And we had a talk about order and chaos. And and how that's, you know, that's really the world there's masculine energy and feminine energy and you need both, you need to play in both. So order would be or chaos would be, like the creative side of things. And that side of like, you can't create things in order, you need cast to create things. But then once you have the idea, you need order to really translate the idea like you can't just be chaotic all the time and think that you're going to be consistently making amazing things. And so it's this idea of being in Hawaii, we were explaining it with me, it's like this idea of being in harmony with both of them and understanding which one you need most in your life at that time. Like, if you're if you're not, if you don't have any direction and need and need direction of what you're supposed to do. You're probably better off going on vacation where no one knows you for a week and completely letting your Self have no rules, and be open to experiences. And then once you're done with that, you need to get back into the order because that's where things get really made is when you're, you know, you're hitting the hammer every day. Now that's it. It's the it's one of my favorite things that's really helped me in my life because I used to have periods where I didn't have much order. And I thought that was a weakness as a leader and as a man. And I looked at it, yeah, wrong aspect.
Pete Turner 45:26
Well, I definitely identify with that. There's times like I was gone all last week on a vacation relaxing and, you know, somewhat mindful of the show, but working on not thinking about the show or working everything. And now I'm having to transition back to the grinding it out working day to day stuff that I have to do to make this happen. But I also have, I was flooded with great ideas for things I might I might do in the future. You know, I can only take on so many projects, but I got to fill my brain up with ideas and then start to write them down and figure out where they might go in the queue of it's just an individual episode. Is it a limited series is this you know, whatever it is. And it was, it was great to take that, that chaos and that stress of not doing what I normally do, and allow that to become something and create space for other thoughts and ideas.
Unknown Speaker 46:13
thousand percent and the balance and the harmony, I should say not the balance because it's not ever equal. You know what I mean? It's, it depends on where you're at. And because once you get that in the harmony of doing that dipping to one side versus the other, what lies in the center is probably what most people would think is like, what you would categorize as God. It's like the perfect, the perfect balance of both being able to flow in and out of the other whenever you need it. Because there's days when I'm too too much order, and I'm a micromanager. And then there's days when I'm chaotic. And I'm just all over the place and forgetting forgetting what I was supposed to do that day. Right. And it's that it's that intertwining of both where you know, if you're too far on one side versus the other what you need and what's the best way to Give it to yourself.
Pete Turner 47:01
Well listen, everybody, this is Angela, Cisco, the alpha hippie, you can get his podcast on Spotify, iTunes, everywhere you get podcasts. He's out there and he's just sprinted this, this kind of knowledge and sharing these kinds of guests with a very open your mind and the things but also gets you up off your butt and doing some deep knee bends and and working out to the Christine or the or the Paula and making your melt your face off in a gym and get in better shape. Any last thoughts at all before we go, Angela?
Unknown Speaker 47:32
Man, I just wanted to say thank you for for having me on the show. I really appreciate you seeing enough value in me to share with the people that you know you cherish because you are the guardian of your community. And so I appreciate it.
Pete Turner 47:45
Oh man, what a nice thing to say. And I appreciate it and we're for sure gonna do an album fight. I'll follow up once we get one scheduled but we're definitely going to get back into that and get them going and you're on the list so I can't wait. Can't wait.
Angelo Sisco 47:57
Me either, brother I can't wait. Thank you
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Pete Turner 3:19
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Angelo Sisco 3:23
hey this is Angelo Sisco and you're listening to the breakdown show
Pete Turner 3:29
yeah Angelo and I we swapped podcast is my turn to have him on my show. And Angelo's an inspirational guy he but he's got a journey he's gonna tell us about that but basically he runs a you know, a gym a Fitness Studio CrossFit style and I think especially now post holidays Angela, you know he all need a little over here I am I just finished eating pie. We all need a reminder on on how to get fit, stay healthy, but also the wellness part of that the mental wellness part of what you do, I think is really cool. So give us a little background on who you are how you got there. And by the way, how cold is in Illinois right now?
Unknown Speaker 4:11
Um, I think today it's like 40 it's definitely it's not too bad. It's actually pretty sunny today. So we're really lucky a few days in the weekend it was is that cold rain, and that's pretty miserable. So we're, we're happy for this stuff today. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, lungs, you know, just long story, just kind of breaking it down as short as I possibly can is I grew up in a town called Melrose Park. It's just outside of Chicago. It's right near O'Hare Airport. And I grew up overweight. And I grew up also to what my father went to prison for 11 years from when I was five till I was 16. So I didn't grow up with much masculine role models and, and obviously, my dad tried to do the best he can, or he could when he was in prison, but you can only imagine what what it's like to just be in President for 11 years. I mean, he was he was really doing that. And you know, the lifestyle that my dad was living was so different than the lifestyle that a five and six and seven, eight year old boy was living. And so the advice that he gave me,
Pete Turner 5:13
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Unknown Speaker 5:37
By city that he gave me really was from someone that was in prison and looking through life in that way. So a lot of what I did when I was young, it's I was really forced to grow up really early work most of my life and really taking care of myself as best as I possibly could. And throughout that time I was also overweight, which was also a very taboo subject in my house and being that way because my father grew up overweight. And it was probably one of the biggest struggles of his life. And him seeing me being overweight really caused him to, to really be stressed about it. And as a young boy, I really didn't understand it just felt like my dad was being an addict to me. And so I grew up in that kind of environment working, trying to support myself, my mother had to get a job, my dad when my dad left, and just trying to navigate through life like that, trying to draw my own conclusions of what life is at that age is is really a that's a tough thing because you don't even have an awareness yet.
Pete Turner 6:31
When you say overweight, what are we talking like? What was your biggest size?
Unknown Speaker 6:35
Sure, brother. My biggest size in my adult life was 300 pounds. So I was I'm 592 It's not like I'm super tall. And so yeah, and so I got up to that weight. And, you know, he came home when I was 16. And I was, I was in school. In college. I went to college for a little bit really didn't know what I was doing there really didn't have much direction. And when I was 20 years old, I was in a motorcycle accident. I was hit by landscaping truck. It blue, the blue, a red light and hit the left side of my body and I have 10 screws and a plate and like skin grafts all over my lower leg and very limited range of motion to my ankle and I was in the hospital for two months, and rehab for five months. It was a very long process. And so at that point in 20, I was 20 years old. And I started gaining a lot of weight. I really wasn't doing much I really didn't have much direction in my life. And fast forward. a year or two after the accident. My parents wind up getting divorced. I was still a boy I really didn't understand how after all this time my parents could get divorce. It really did. My brain could wrap around. Like if you don't see somebody for 11 years and are an intimate with them. It's probably weird. You know, it means a whole different person and I just couldn't understand that at the time. And the reason I share that is because on top of the accident, you know, that really stressed me out I was eating a lot. I wasn't really happy with my life. I stumbled upon the movie 300 Have you seen the movie?
Pete Turner 7:58
Yeah.
Angelo Sisco 8:00
Right around 2008 I watched that movie. And I was like, Man, these guys look different than like other hero movies because most of the people like in that action movies are just gigantic, just really bulky and big. But these guys were all lean and moving well and doing all this. And so I started doing some research, and I was still overweight. At this time. I really wasn't working. I wasn't working out at all, there really wasn't anything and I came to find out they trained in a gym in Utah called Jim Jones. And so I started studying Jim Jones stuff, and then I saw that Jim Jones was a part of this thing called CrossFit. And, you know, I was a new year's resolution gone absolutely amazing. So in January 5 2009, I started doing CrossFit by myself. I like I said, I weighed 300 pounds, my ankle, it was also me re learning how to move athletically with this new ankle. It was a really, really interesting time for me. I lost 95 pounds in seven months.
Pete Turner 8:52
Wow. Holy cow.
Angelo Sisco 8:55
Yeah, completely changed completely changed my life.
Pete Turner 8:58
So let's back up a little bit. Talk about some of this trauma you had to go through. I mean, before your dad goes to prison, would you? Was your life relatively normal? Or was it kind of chaotic?
Unknown Speaker 9:09
Yeah, great question. I can honestly say it was pretty chaotic. So my father, my father grew up overweight and also lived in a very unsupportive home and I'll share this story. So give some context to his choices. His father didn't really talk to him, his mother like Ford's the work permit when he was a kid, he had a really tough, tough life, my father and he hit puberty and he grew and became a big man and he realized if someone made fun of him for being fat, that he could be physical or violent with them, and that would stop is stopped him from feeling sad. And so it's kind of crazy is violence really gave my father freedom. If you look at it much how cross it gave me freedom. And so when I was a little boy, I was taught to be violent at a very young age, even when he was home. Four years old, five years old. If like you He saw that some kids weren't nice to me at like a pool or something. He would grab me to go fight the kids. Right? So, honestly, I have no idea. You know, when you think about I really don't know what I was doing. But I wanted to make my daddy proud. I knew that right? Like, I think when you're a little boy, you're just like, Hey, you know, the greatest when you're a boy, in my opinion, the greatest satisfaction is when your dad is proud of you. It's like, because he's your hero. Yeah, your guy, right? And that's like the that is like the biggest figure in your world that your dad gives you praise. You know, that's all the praise you need. Like your mom, you know, for me anyways, my mom gave you praise. If you just got up and we're alive. My dad, he plays only if you did stuff, right. Yeah. So yeah, I kind of grew up in that chaotic, violent, not violent. He was never violent with me, but like being violent with other people and using that as a, as a tool. If, if someone was doing something that was imbalanced, you know, this was just, it was just the way I grew up. And it was what I knew and the neighborhood and the people that I grew up with that was really reinforced.
Pete Turner 11:01
And were you athletic at all growing up or no?
Unknown Speaker 11:05
You're great question. No, man, I wasn't really athletic at all, man. It's a, you know, it's a combination of one I got my first job when I was 10 years old, I worked at a barber shop, cleaning it up, because I needed to make some money and also to, you know, when you don't have a male figure at your home at your house, and it's your sister, your grandmother and your mother, like no one's playing catch with you. Like, it's just like, it's just not part of the thing. So I played a little bit of Little League. But you know, I was always overweight, didn't really feel athletic and didn't really feel confident that because I didn't know how to do it, right. And there was nobody really available to me that was trying to show me and so I didn't take much of a liking. I did I played Little League probably to like, fifth or sixth grade. And then I didn't play a sport through high school. And
Pete Turner 11:48
so when you're trying to relearn your body, you're really kind of learning it from scratch almost because you didn't run around and play football and baseball and all those things enough to really have that built in already.
Unknown Speaker 12:00
You want to hear a funny story? I just started the last two and a half months, I've been re learning swimming. Oh, good for you. All right. And, you know, I was like, Man, I'm gonna go swimming and I have so my left foot doesn't dorsiflex so if you've ever been swimming, obviously, you point your foot, I really can't do that. So I kind of kick the leg with one with one you know, with one foot versus the other ones kind of propelling me well, and so man, I'll tell you what, what I did Pete is I was like, how can I make this where I could just learn how to swim and and not be so chaotic. And so I bought some flippers Yeah, and for a month for a month I only swim with flippers I learned the breathing I learned my arm and everything or arms and everything like that. And last week I swim I swim 800 meters without stopping. And so it just re learning things all the time. I am physically pretty much I it's kind of funny that we said this before I did the swimming thing I did jujitsu to realer kind of renewed my relationship with being physical with another person and not having not having it to be this You know, I grew up where you know someone said something that nice to you punch them as fast as you could so you didn't have to. So you could win. Right and and so that's just the environment that I grew up in Sure. And so it was nice to like relearned you like I did jujitsu for a couple years relearn jujitsu and started doing the swimming towards the winter now, and it's just, yeah, I'm really learning things physically that's giving me a better relationship with myself.
Pete Turner 13:24
Yeah, that's great. And how is swimming treated you What would you What are you getting out of it that maybe it's different than CrossFit?
Unknown Speaker 13:30
who met my favorite thing about swimming is this. If you try to swim reckless and hard, a hot water pump, the water punishes you. The water is very right. The water is very righteous, where most things in our lives we've been taught that aggression, Trump's even skill at times in a short term kind of way, but when you're swimming, if you treat that water, not nice, she's going to make you feel it some way somehow you'll you'll either drink a sip of water, you'll feel off balance, you know what I mean? Yeah, and that's what I love the most about the water. It's like, like I said, it's a very righteous place to be. It's very fair.
Pete Turner 14:08
It's tough but fair, the less you fight water, and the more smooth and elegantly you swim, the faster and longer you can go. That's for sure. Great.
Unknown Speaker 14:17
Yeah, it's, it's really nice. And so where was I lost 95 pounds, let's get back to the deterioration. So I lost 95 pounds. Like I said before about my father cross. It gave me freedom. I felt like a whole new lease on life. I was 25 years old. And I felt like I found the thing that that was going to make me like a man like this was my vehicle to for my own growth and what I would like to share with people and I started to train and people outside for free. I had another business at the time. And so it was at night. And so during the day, I would just research and learn about exercise and nutrition and train and train, train people outside for fun. And then I was like, man, why can I make this my career this would be so great. This wouldn't even feel like work. I started training people at a park for a fee and then September of 2009, that same year, rented a racquetball court space and I converted that into a little gym. And then October of two, or November of 2010, I opened O'Hare across it and we just celebrated a nine year anniversary. And it's been a crazy ride.
Pete Turner 15:19
It has been a crazy ride and yet great timing. What was it? I mean, because there was the whole 300 workout. And then right about that time also, yeah, the CrossFit thing was being born and you could do all those goofy workouts, the Cindy, the Cheryl, all those things. What about that click? I mean, nothing had clicked before. And all of a sudden you would sort of figured it out. You didn't know this then but you kept doing it. What was it?
Unknown Speaker 15:46
I watched the video one day of this guy named Josh ever who was like the original, like, you know, like, you know how there's Rich froning and all these big cross it people. Josh Everett back in the day. anyone that knows CrossFit was like a monster. He was 100 Hundred 85 pound guy, he could clean and jerk a lot of weight but he had a good body weight awareness and I wants to do this workout called King Kong which is a mixture of lifting heavy barbells but also doing higher skill gymnastic stuff. And I watched him do this I was like this is this is how I would love to express myself physically, I would love to be able to pick up heavy things and move and do that I'd love to be able to move my body and have body awareness to do gymnastics and agile movements. This would be like the perfect combination. And so that's what really drew me to CrossFit. I wanted to be able to be super strong, but I wanted to do things I wanted to express myself physically that was also more than just looks
Pete Turner 16:39
as you hit these barriers that that inevitably come up as you go on these kinds of journeys. What barriers Did you hit describe like how you dealt with that all those things.
Unknown Speaker 16:49
So as far as my journey into cross it the first day I did my workout I cried on the way walking home from from the little local village gym and I cried because Cuz I didn't realize how out of shape I was man. I really did. And I thought, you know, you don't realize how far you you've gone to you do something like, like ended a physical test. And it was a bunch of stuff in a row. And at the very end, you had to do one minute of burpees. And I was like, so dead from the test. I did three burpees in one minute. And like I was destroyed. Yeah, I went home. It was the first time I consciously made a decision that was only about making myself proud. Yeah, it wasn't about making someone else proud or doing something so my dad would notice me or other people would notice me or girls would notice me. Like I knew that day that I was calling back because I wanted to make myself proud. And I feel I could still feel that day that I made that decision. And so that was that was like a huge barrier for me right off the bat that I had to make a commitment that I was doing this for me and it was just Angelo. It was the Angelo show. It wasn't about anybody else on law. That was a Huge, huge barrier for me that I started training people you want to go into that I really, I really had no business accurate. I'm very, very good with people, I'm really good with emotions. But I was that person that like, in order for me to rent out my first space, I had to put my name on my sister's checking account because I didn't even have a checking. guy was like, I was not that guy, you know, I'm just making taking cash doing stuff like that. And so I signed the lease of the gym. And I didn't know that you had to, like go get like a business license or anything like that. I wound up opening the gym and getting almost shut down because I just I didn't know you had to do all the business licenses and approvals and stuff. Like I didn't know any of the business side of doing things. All I knew is is I had this thing that was CrossFit. And at the time, in 2009 and 2010. I was one of the few people in this area that actually knew what it was and was trying to define it for other people a lot of people didn't know across it was it was a very unknown fitness methodology and execute an exercise program because there was times when I would go to like regular gyms and I would leave the treadmill running, because I would do a workout where I would run and then I would run all the way into the weight room do a bunch of deadlifts or something, and I'd be running around these like big box gyms and they would just be kicking me out all the time, because they thought I was as dangerous. You know what I mean? Leaving the treadmill, leaving the treadmill, like seven or eight miles an hour doubting, and that you know what I mean? It was just such an unknown thing. But I felt so connected to it. You know, like I wanted it was a vehicle that gave me freedom, and I wanted to share it with people in the same way because I wanted them to experience this freedom that it gave. Hmm,
Pete Turner 19:38
yeah, that's great. So as you're experiencing this freedom and this growth, it you're having to learn one how to be a businessman and do all the things legally, but also, you know, learning how to train people. It's one thing to go through a whole course and all that kind of stuff, maybe get a degree in it, but you're sort of you know, you're doing the autodidact thing. You're just doing this yourself. What gave you the conference. Nice to see that through. That's that's not easy to do, man.
Unknown Speaker 20:02
Yeah. You know, when I opened the gym, I was the sort of typical Underdog Story, I wanted to prove why I wanted to prove to myself that I could do it. I also wanted to prove to my family and people that I knew that even though I dropped out of college, that I was still going to make something of myself, like I had a really crazy identity wrapped around like, you know, I wasn't really doing anything worthwhile. I mean, that business that I had, we were just selling pizza slices outside to drugs outside of bars and clubs in Chicago really wasn't anything pretty sophisticated, made money, obviously, because it was fun and people were really into it. But, you know, I wanted something that I could say at a party that I was really proud of. And that was mine. And and that I created. I really wanted to, you know, there's, there's certain, you know, there's as far as like feeling empowered, like for you to have a thought, and that thought, be an idea, and you tell someone out loud that you're going to do that. And then you do that, that is probably one of the most like biggest builders of self esteem. Like because now you know that you could create something it's such a beautiful thing and so I really felt called to be doing that.
Pete Turner 21:11
So you're dealing with these things and you're discovering pride in your own efforts. And and starting from a place of I want to build pride, but also doing things for you not to try to impress your dad or anybody else. When you're talking and training with your other people, you must surely be pulling those lessons out for them as well.
Unknown Speaker 21:33
Yeah, totally. I think one of the things that has really helped me actually be a coach and a trainer is I was my journey is more like my clients journey than the guy that was the stud football player quarterback, went to college, got an exercise, his degree is done playing sports, but now he wants to train people I could connect to people in their darkness because I've lived it. You know what I mean? And I think that's what really draws people to working with me in any capacity is I am not the typical guy. That's a coach, right? I'm I made this up, you know? Uh huh. Uh huh.
Pete Turner 22:15
No, I get it. You start to get this goal and you start to see some success, you start to pick up the the rules of business, but you just keep going and get better and better. Talk a little bit about your evolution not on like the wellness side and the workouts that but on the business side. I mean, look, you are supposed to be crippled by imposter syndrome, because that's exactly what you actually are. And yet you kept going.
Unknown Speaker 22:40
Yeah, you know, it was. It was such a nice time. And as soon as the gym started getting going, and I was able to create some revenue that was beyond just what I needed to live. I completely just threw it all in education for myself. I, I couldn't stop learning, like I wanted to learn and I would reach out to mentors and Do and do their programs or ask them for calls and, and stuff like that I was just throwing every piece of money that I had into, into me essentially, because I really believe that if I the more wisdom that I carried, the more I would be able to help people. And so I had a very deep time. 2010 1112 1314 15 just learning just learning from business coaches go into masterminds. Yeah, I really didn't take money out of the gym. Unless it was for something like that. It was very, for these two and a half three years I didn't go on a vacation or anything like that. It was just to go travel to go to someone seminar or pay pay so and so to do an hour Skype call with me. So I could review has all this stuff with them. And I just really wanted to feel like I was the best at what I did. And I did what I believed that entails to feel that way.
Pete Turner 23:56
Yeah. So as you go out and you do This you start to you connect with the people that you're training. Let's talk about that a little bit. So it's one thing to Sam group of people, but you must have been getting better at people too, because they keep coming back, you keep finding new clients, all of that stuff is a validation that you're doing it the right way. Give us some insight on that.
Unknown Speaker 24:18
Yeah. You know, I was I was extremely and still am extremely passionate about people being aware and happy that I was holding them to a higher standard than maybe they really believed at that given time. Okay, I just really wanted to, you know, to see people grow and evolve and become more confident and become better people. You know, I just truly believe you know, how you how you treat your body is in direct proportion of how you feel about yourself. Okay. I really believe that and I wanted to be used to show people that they could use exercise and cross it and proper nutrition change their whole outlook on their life because that was exactly what happened to me. I mean, when I lost almost 100 pounds, I was a happier person I just was I was happier to be around people. I was happier to buy clothes, I was just happy to do that. And I really wanted people to have their version of that journey inside the walls of my gym, like whatever that whatever that was for them. So for me, it was losing 100 pounds. For some people, it's losing weight. Some people it's gaining muscle for some people, it's doing a certain type of movement or certain weight of something and I just, I wanted O'Hare across it to be the vehicle to help people get to be the best version of themselves.
Pete Turner 25:39
What kind of mantra did you come up with for people as your career coaching and again, you're getting better at coaching people, they keep coming back you you're not turning in the park anymore. So what were some of the just, you know, that self talk that positive self talk that you've got to have to be able to push those those burpee sessions, you know how many burpees This much time, you know, I can do this. I'm the best. What are those? Some of those mantras?
Unknown Speaker 26:04
Yeah, for sure. So one of the things that I really focus on when it comes to that stuff is speaking in the positive. So never saying like, don't stop, I think that's one of the hardest things for people to really get out of saying, because when you say like, don't stop, it focuses on the negative, because you're saying what you don't want to happen, right? And so just making sure like, I could keep moving, I can keep moving, I can keep moving like little things like that, like that was probably more, it was really dependent on the person and their language with that would really relate it to them. Like this was just a big example. So I just trained somebody for the fire department, and we had to get through all of this testing. And that was what we did is I can keep moving. I can keep moving because if you say that versus don't stop, right, I can keep moving is a much more empowering phrase. I love it. And so that's like what I really just tried to do is tap into how the people naturally speak to them. And then try to rework their their own language to help them really connect to it because the way I connected something may not be the way you connect to it, especially if it's a word right? Because that's why people are you on the internet all the time because when they don't know context, right, and so it's really just trying to get deeper into them and their psychology and then just tweak what they have to make it more positive.
Pete Turner 27:21
Angelo is got a podcast and he kind of covers a lot of these things on it. And it's called the alpha hippie podcast, you can get it on iTunes, Spotify, you can also get at his website. But the main thing I want you guys to know is that there's a lot of resources out there people that are have actually, it's one thing they've always been in shape, you know, and say, This is how you get fit. But it's another thing to say I could not get off the couch and now look at where I am, you know, I mean, this is sort of the point of having someone like Angelo on the show. Talk to us about your podcast, what it's about how you've grown with that.
Unknown Speaker 27:56
Yeah, brothers for sure. So in around 2015 I was going through a period actually with the gym 2014 2015 where I see 2011 1213 14 early in 2014 I caught the very big bubble of, of CrossFit of growing my gym and stuff like that. So I was already established and then this thing became mainstream and i was growing at such rates were like 85% 275% like i was growing way more you know what I mean than the normal rates of business growth is and of course my silliness really thought that it was because of me, right? I really thought of, you know, and then wound up happening is is when we weren't having such a dramatic growth I wound up turning into a little bit of a victim and blaming other people blaming the people that I worked with worked for me, you know, just all these things and then I I stumbled upon a leadership book and it really hit me that I was the biggest limiter I was the reason that it wasn't so growing and I'll doing all these things and And then I started reading things like emotional intelligence that was my first, like emotional intelligence. 2.0 was the first book that I read, that really helped me understand like self awareness and looking introspectively and thinking about how I'm treating myself and what am I doing saying to myself, and it began a really big path to self discovery. I, I started going on retreats, just to talk about mindfulness and relooking my life and my childhood, decoding all these things and understanding, you know, why do I make the choices that I even make? And one day I came back from a retreat, and I was explaining to someone what we were doing some breathing and meditation thing. The guy laughed at me at first you kind of scoffed at it. Like I thought it was a silly thing to do. And I said, Well, the reason that you don't understand this shit is because you're not enough. Maybe I don't even know why I'm explaining this to you. And I was like, Wow, what a fun idea. And so I looked online, I wanted to wear a T shirt that said alpha hippie, and I didn't find any and so I decided to draw a logo, and I printed out 100 shirts for outfit had be at first and I wore them and share them with all my friends and went to all these festivals and all these retreats all over the world and just share them.
Pete Turner 30:08
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Unknown Speaker 30:30
went to all these festivals and all these retreats all over the world and just share them with people and they would take pictures and post on Instagram for me it was really awesome. And I was like well how can I continue to spread this message and really grow and develop new relationships and also to develop a community that people identify themselves as this idea of being an alpha p You're not? No you're not all the way last year that all the way right? There's some things that you believe they that you should be doing but you also are kind of generous to people along the way. And then I started the podcast at guest is about 85 episodes. And now about a year and a half a little more than a year and a half and I was fortunate to be connected with you and have you on and, and just look at that, like my my web of friendships and relationships have just completely grown and blossom by meeting people and connecting with people that identify with this idea of being an alpha had been serving and serving the world. And it's just been absolutely amazing that it's just been so great to for me relationships are my currency than the more people that I could really connect with on a judgment level. And especially to at the where I'm at right now as a man with other people being alive in that way. It's just a gift to have.
Pete Turner 31:38
Yeah, yeah. What a great message. What guests have really changed how you see the world who's stuck with it.
Angelo Sisco 31:45
Oh man who worked really, really sure so there's there's two gentlemen that I've had on two separate times. One of his name is Aaron hind and the other is Orion mela hand and they are the owners of the fayed it's a beverage company out of Santa Cruz, California. And they were the first people that I've met in business that really helped me understand that I had this idea of business being a businessman, very similar to probably what people would know as like Gordon Gekko. Okay, I thought, I thought in order for you to make a lot of money for you to be successful, you had a run over people, I thought that that was how it worked. Right. And upon meeting these two men having on my show, being able to spend intimate time with them, they were the first two people that really helped me understand that you could be successful and that you could be creative and free and open and you can love people and it wasn't about what they could give you or take from them and it completely changed my whole outlook on how I really approach all business doings and it made it it was in a way that I just thought was so genuine. And those two guys I mean complete debt to for that those are two amazing people. They're amazing entrepreneurs and businessmen and What I have something in my business life where I need help those old people?
Pete Turner 33:04
Yeah, that's interesting. So you found yourself some legitimate mentors to kind of, you know, replace your, your, your broken mentor past with your dad. I mean, that's, that's a big thing to be able to take on how is your relationship with your dad today?
Unknown Speaker 33:20
Awesome. No, it took a lot of work took a lot of work, a lot of discussions, a lot of understanding on my part. But today we have a we have a phenomenal relationship. And I think the biggest reason why it's really phenomenal is oftentimes I think in parent relationships, the parents, it's difficult for them to look at their kids, adult kids, as a man and woman, okay? It's because they don't really see them that way. And, you know, through through my actions and how I conduct myself and through my communication by my father and mother, really look at me like I'm a man and I'm Understand that I appreciate who they are. But their relationship with me is much better in a friendship form than it is in a mentorship. At this point in my life, it kind of takes the stress off both of us, my dad could just be my friend, and he doesn't have to worry about trying to tell me how to live my life, and I don't have to worry about trying to do things to make him approve of me. Right. So it's better with some much more open and much more relaxed relationship. And I love the relationship that we have now because, you know, despite all the despite all the way he taught me, his lessons are really valuable. It's really important to stand up for yourself and, and and believe in yourself and be courageous. And it's important to to take action relatively quickly when you feel when you feel right about something, right. These were things like if you really zoom out, it's probably why I was able to coach people. It's probably why I even open the gym to begin with because I was just able to do those things. I didn't have much skill at the time, but I had tenacity and that's what he tried to teach me Would you know that we can argue all we want about the methods? Sure, the lessons, the lessons done the left there really are, nonetheless are really valuable when I was able to get past my trauma and zoom out and really understand his point of view and really understand his lessons. I'm super grateful for it, man, because I wouldn't have been crazy enough to think I could do it without having someone that made me that you don't mean the baby feel that passionate about doing Mm hmm. And so yeah, we have a really cool relationship.
Pete Turner 35:30
Now. That's fantastic. I love hearing that. I love hearing that you got this. You sort of got this thing figured out a little bit. what's what's next for you? What's on the horizon?
Unknown Speaker 35:39
Yeah, brother. So I, three months ago, I was in a hot yoga class. And I had a vision for a new fitness concept or maybe a modified fitness concept that what I already have, I would, one of the challenges I've had with cross it over the time that I've been with it as I've my 11 year relationship. With it, there's not much mindfulness, open, open spoken about mindfulness inside of the CrossFit arena, a lot of lacrosse people believe CrossFit is is disconnect from your brain or disconnect from your body. So you could just go harder. And don't get me wrong. I think there is times where everyone needs to train with someone intensity. But I would also argue, it's not as frequent as most people think. I think if we all trained at 80% 70 to 80%, most days, and one day, every two weeks or maybe three weeks when it really just felt right, you went hard. People, people would be less likely for stress, injuries, overuse injuries, and also I really believe people would develop a better relationship with exercise, because they're going to be more connected throughout the moving of it. And so I'm working on what I'm claiming as a mindful functional fitness concept that I had a vision of that day and I'm putting it together as we speak, what it will look like what it will feel like how the classes are going be just a modified, it's going to be a different version of cross it because it's going to be based on being connected with your body being connected with your breath, not letting go of the connection because one of the challenges I think that happens with CrossFit is in real life, if you're under a stressful situation, the worst thing that you could do is disconnect, and just go off the head and handle it just go and try to blurt through it. It's really like the wrong way to handle stress. And when you think about training, what any training really is, is that you're building up your tolerance for stress. That's what training is, right? I squat 200 pounds. The next week I scored I squatted to 10 I built up 10 more pounds of tolerance of stress that I could put on myself. And so I want people to develop a better stress response with fitness and strength and functional movements and strength and conditioning. And I'm really passionate about this brother and so this is what I'm moving towards and now designing it and and really crafting what I want Really want this to be because this is going to be the thing that the last 10 years of coaching people outside and nine years of owning us are here across it. This is this is with what I have skills up now at 36 is what I'm creating. I'm not just living in what I created when I was 26. Yeah, creating the best of what I have now to my knowledge and expertise.
Pete Turner 38:22
I love it. I just I love your headspace around the whole thing to me, you, you know the path even and you're comfortable not knowing exactly what it all fits how it fits together. And being able to synthesize the lessons that your dad gave you. It is something valuable. You know, maybe he taught you the wrong method, but the lesson seems to have stuck and that's a powerful thing, no matter how you how you chop that like you've actually received a powerful skill set from from his goofy way of teaching you determination or tenacity or whatever it is, and to accept that it's big
Unknown Speaker 39:01
Yeah, it's freedom. Yeah, it is. That's what it really is.
Pete Turner 39:05
Yeah, yeah. Well I'll let you turn the mic around and ask me a couple questions if you want we got a little bit of time because you you talk fast and go fast so we burned through a lot of
Angelo Sisco 39:15
already sorry
Pete Turner 39:16
No, sorry it's great. What do you what do you want to get into
Unknown Speaker 39:20
Oh man, have you done any album shows lately? Oh, you know what
Pete Turner 39:25
are sort of on hiatus with that because of the holidays and Mike who took over running it got a new job but we are going to have some very soon we actually have one that's recorded and then the Can I just have to produce it that's YouTube versus the Beatles. But I you which didn't do in one
Unknown Speaker 39:44
oh my god, I would love to do when i when i first when you were going to be on the show and I started researching you and I go Alright, he's got some funny shows. You got some funny comedians on here and then I saw you do that. I was like, This is so fun. You know. I I love debates of substance like when people really have when people could articulate their opinion, and really help them understand that I think it's such a, I think it's such a nice thing, and especially something like music, which is such a universal language and it hits people differently. It's so nice to hear how something hits you. And it could be completely different for someone else. Yeah. And it's like, I love hearing how people connect to something like that. Because to me, music and food is universal. It's the two things like when you really break down humans, we're all connected by we like some form of food. We have some sort of preference on that. It's true. We love and we have we most people like music, right? It's you know, I have a baby. If we put music on he's very stimulated. He doesn't. You know, this is a very natural thing you have to try to, in my opinion, you have to try to not like music.
Pete Turner 40:51
Yeah, that's awesome, man. I love hearing that the whole thing about music and comparing how it hits you. It's such a big thing. There's so many things times in the show and not in fights where you hear something you're like, Man, I wish I would have thought to say that that's such a great point. And it does recalibrate how you see songs and, or how you hear them and how you experience them. It's, it's, it's a great point, man. And I really I dig how you appreciate that. Does that resonate through the rest of your life to like that perspective acceptance that other people have them and, and they can often enlighten you in ways that you weren't? Like, they can allow you to enjoy things more than you ever could before. If you just allow them to show you how they see the world. For sure. I really,
Unknown Speaker 41:33
man, I would if you asked me what I what I really am. I would say that I'm an artist, I create things. And and I think what every artist really longs for if you're creating something is you want your work to be appreciated. And in order for your work to be appreciated. You have to appreciate other people's forms of communication and styles and doing that and so I'm really open to it because the truth of the matter is what people don't often say enough is for me and you to do this podcast. It's pretty fucking courageous. Yeah. It's like, you know what I mean? We're putting ourselves out there. You're putting yourself out there. I'm putting myself out there. And that's what artists do. And anytime you I see anyone doing that in any form, I want to let them know that I appreciate their work, because I know in turn, I want it the same way when I put myself out there, right? Yeah,
Pete Turner 42:28
yeah. Yeah. How about that crazy podcast growth experience, you do it to represent a brand or to get something off your chest and then what you get back at least from my experience, is 1000 times more than what I ever thought it could be, even though it's not what I thought it was going to be. It's just such a wonderful, life fulfilling machine that just continues to make my life bigger and better and, and more more rich all the time.
Unknown Speaker 42:55
Totally. The thing I love the most about the podcast brother is, you know in this busy world World in this busy world, and I'm sure you know this for a conversation and get really good. It's like the it's like a prize fight. The first round is usually like the first beginning of a conversation. It's pretty, it's pretty off, like people are feeling each other out. Me and you are catching the rhythm of how we're going to kind of dialogue with each other. But then after that second, third, you know what I mean? You start getting into, like, you know, and that's just so great. And I love doing that, then podcasts in an interesting way, almost forced us to dial into that. And I think we see how much we connect with people on such a deep level, just speaking to them for an hour, because there's nothing else that for this hour, but just meeting you, man, you know? Yeah,
Pete Turner 43:42
have you have you pulled any moments of Wonder out of your podcasts like the guests or anything where something hits you just later on or after a shot like lot of times after a shower or during a shower or during a nap? Something will sensitize and unlock my brain and I'm like, Oh man, I completely changed how I see the world.
Angelo Sisco 44:00
Well, man, totally I had a talk with this guy. His name is Tom Foxley. He's got a mindset RX. It's like a mindset thing for crossfitters. And we had a talk about order and chaos. And and how that's, you know, that's really the world there's masculine energy and feminine energy and you need both, you need to play in both. So order would be or chaos would be, like the creative side of things. And that side of like, you can't create things in order, you need cast to create things. But then once you have the idea, you need order to really translate the idea like you can't just be chaotic all the time and think that you're going to be consistently making amazing things. And so it's this idea of being in Hawaii, we were explaining it with me, it's like this idea of being in harmony with both of them and understanding which one you need most in your life at that time. Like, if you're if you're not, if you don't have any direction and need and need direction of what you're supposed to do. You're probably better off going on vacation where no one knows you for a week and completely letting your Self have no rules, and be open to experiences. And then once you're done with that, you need to get back into the order because that's where things get really made is when you're, you know, you're hitting the hammer every day. Now that's it. It's the it's one of my favorite things that's really helped me in my life because I used to have periods where I didn't have much order. And I thought that was a weakness as a leader and as a man. And I looked at it, yeah, wrong aspect.
Pete Turner 45:26
Well, I definitely identify with that. There's times like I was gone all last week on a vacation relaxing and, you know, somewhat mindful of the show, but working on not thinking about the show or working everything. And now I'm having to transition back to the grinding it out working day to day stuff that I have to do to make this happen. But I also have, I was flooded with great ideas for things I might I might do in the future. You know, I can only take on so many projects, but I got to fill my brain up with ideas and then start to write them down and figure out where they might go in the queue of it's just an individual episode. Is it a limited series is this you know, whatever it is. And it was, it was great to take that, that chaos and that stress of not doing what I normally do, and allow that to become something and create space for other thoughts and ideas.
Unknown Speaker 46:13
thousand percent and the balance and the harmony, I should say not the balance because it's not ever equal. You know what I mean? It's, it depends on where you're at. And because once you get that in the harmony of doing that dipping to one side versus the other, what lies in the center is probably what most people would think is like, what you would categorize as God. It's like the perfect, the perfect balance of both being able to flow in and out of the other whenever you need it. Because there's days when I'm too too much order, and I'm a micromanager. And then there's days when I'm chaotic. And I'm just all over the place and forgetting forgetting what I was supposed to do that day. Right. And it's that it's that intertwining of both where you know, if you're too far on one side versus the other what you need and what's the best way to Give it to yourself.
Pete Turner 47:01
Well listen, everybody, this is Angela, Cisco, the alpha hippie, you can get his podcast on Spotify, iTunes, everywhere you get podcasts. He's out there and he's just sprinted this, this kind of knowledge and sharing these kinds of guests with a very open your mind and the things but also gets you up off your butt and doing some deep knee bends and and working out to the Christine or the or the Paula and making your melt your face off in a gym and get in better shape. Any last thoughts at all before we go, Angela?
Unknown Speaker 47:32
Man, I just wanted to say thank you for for having me on the show. I really appreciate you seeing enough value in me to share with the people that you know you cherish because you are the guardian of your community. And so I appreciate it.
Pete Turner 47:45
Oh man, what a nice thing to say. And I appreciate it and we're for sure gonna do an album fight. I'll follow up once we get one scheduled but we're definitely going to get back into that and get them going and you're on the list so I can't wait. Can't wait.
Angelo Sisco 47:57
Me either, brother I can't wait. Thank you
